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SWAP FEED FUND MAKE CREDIT CARD DONATIONS TO THE SWAP FEED FUND... CALL FOSTER FEEDS AT 304-269-1333, TALK TO CHARLIE TO GIVE A DONATION TO THE SECOND WIND ADOPTION PROGRAM FEED FUND, WE GO THROUGH 6 TONS OF FEED A MONTH. YOU CAN ALSO PAY FOR ADOPTIONS AND PURCHASES THIS WAY!!
Congrats to our President for the nomination and eventual induction to the ROTC Hall of Fame at West Virginia State University, nominated by the former VP of the University, the induction will take place at the Embassy Suites in Charleston, WV October 14, 2010. A former military school, rich in a history of national defense has only inducted just over 100 military retirees to its Hall of Fame, many of them general officers. Congratulations on this huge honor. Stay up with our President/Executive Director, all the directors, volunteers and riders. All the CSS/SWAP supporters and adopters are having a big time sharing stories, pictures, lots of good stuff about their horses. Our President is at her max friends so she is full but we are going to set up a fan based page so everyone can be added. So sorry to the 200 + people who have asked for a friendship.... we'll get our fan page up soon. don't forget to order your SWAP wines, exceptional wines from Chile and Spain with a Second Wind Label, order on a secure website and have them shipped right to your house. ALL profits for the wine goes to our Second Wind horses and Old Timers Sanctuary
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We are still looking for teams, $1000. donated or raised and sent to SWAP puts you in the running for a chance to win this beautiful 15 carat ruby/diamond ring, the drawing is 1 December so there is plenty of time to raise those funds!! Winner get the 3 appraisals on the value on the ring (I promise its going to be a shocker for some lucky supporter!)
Raise $1000. for Second Wind
Adoption Program and have a 1 in 70 chance at a 15 carat Ruby/Diamond
Ring! ... mail donations to Rt. 2 Box 24A Jockey Camp Road, West Union,
WV 26456
The Wish List of Our Needs: More than anything we need a large donation to help us pay off our farm, we just owe 70k. With a farm paid for, we will never worry about the program and schools closing. We are looking for 2 to 3 people to do work in exchange for a place to live. 1. New or lightly used truck and 3 to 6 horse trailer, our equipment has seen its better days, we've been using both for nearly 14 years to pick up horses and move them to their new homes. 2. A Farm in any location for low cost long term lease or donation to expand our program to develop a retirement farm for our now aging horses returned to us from adopters who could not retire our horses. Our highest priority locations initially are Virginia, Kentucky, Ohio, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Maryland, or Delaware. 3. New or Lightly Used Farm utility vehicle (like a john deere gator), farm tractor, & manure spreader 4. Tack and large horse items donated... like carts/buggies, racing bikes, jog carts, harnesses, saddles, horse trailers, blankets/rugs to use or sell on SWAP Shopping. Supplies to use around the barn or office. 5. A bulk feed bin that will hold anywhere from 6 tons to 9 tons of grain donated or at low cost or even a break on the cost of purchase and instillation. 6. A volunteer or low cost employee who can help us fix our database that lists all adopters, donors, supporters and horses/dogs/cats in the program. 7. Some sort of a cloth facility like Cover-all or Farm-Tek building to increase our abilities to be able to take more horses and have an indoor area to work and train horses in winter, donated, grant or partially donated. anywhere from 50 x 200 to 72 x 300. 8. Monthly Sponsors for our light use, elderly or retirement/sanctuary horses/dogs who's possibilities for adoption are very low, ie. Orphy, Jelly Bean, Dixie, Allie, Kochese, Darlin, Mr. Darcey, JoJo, Freckles, Lucy, Bandit, Max, etc. 9. Volunteers to commit to doing one fund raiser for SWAP horses at your location during 2010, it can be a golf tournament, a bake sale, book sale, lemonade stand, car wash, setting up an information stand at a horse show. This is a great way to kids to get involved in helping horses. 10 Anyone interested in free high quality top soil (manure already composted) and manure for gardens, you can pick up for free by the truck load at our WV location (bring a loader). If you are a gardener and only need a small amount, pick up in a truck or we'll be selling it by the feed bag full at $2.00 a bag (in a bag that is usually used for 100 lbs of feed). This is beautiful clean top soil. This offer will only last so long because we will be leveling the manure pile this August when its dry enough to get a dozer in there. 11. Someone to do dozer work on the farm, level arena/round pen, do terracing on the hill sides to keep water out of the barns and level the top soil and manure pile to increase the level of that land in that bottom so we can put our methane digester in and indoor arena. Volunteer or at a reduced cost.
Reporting Neglect: Please, if you see neglect (ribs and hip bones showing or no food available), its critical to call the sheriff of the county where the horse/animal is located. Have the address where the horse is located or directions to the farm, pictures and the owners name (if possible). If the sheriff does nothing email our cruelty case workers Tom and Ruby Fleming at tomfleming64@cebridge.net or email PETA's cruelty case workers Stephanie or Tori at sbell@peta.org, or ToriP@peta.org Remember horses can not speak for themselves so we must speak for them!! All reports are kept anonymous. Getting Help for Your Horses/animals if you can not care for them: If you can not feed your animals, whether they are horses or other animals, if you are adopters, call SWAP HQ immediately, if not, call your local horse rescue and plead for help, if they are full then call your animal control officer or sheriff to release ownership of your animals so they can get them help Before they are starved to death, do not wait until they are starved, its critical to get help early. Contact us if you do not know what to do. call 304-873-3532 or email secondwindadopt@aol.com. Many counties have pet pantries so you can get feed when times are tough. If things are getting tight with costs, go to a less expensive grain like a simple stock pellet supplemented with corn, according to Ohio State Corn is the leading horse feed in the US according to their research, many large equine schools and large farms feed these all natural feeds because of what they get for the price, a lot of negative stuff has been written about corn but no one can support it with actual proof and research. We feed a simple all stock pellet from southern states and we supplement with cracked corn for those who need more calories, here is the link:
TOP TEN WAYS YOU CAN HELP PROTECT HORSES 1. BE THEIR VOICE - your vote is your greatest weapon against injustice, so register and actively support horse protection and preservation legislation. 2. LEAD BY EXAMPLE - Walk the talk. Don't support or attend cruel horse activities such as Tennessee Walker events using "soring" techniques - painful techniques to make the horse walk a certain way, or events that use drugs to make horses achieve results. High-diving horse acts are cruel, as are rodeo events that don't promote respect for animals and their health. 3. BE AN INFORMED CONSUMER - products made from horses like Premarin (pregnant mare urine pills for estrogen replacement), are created through horses' suffering. Your spending dollar is a weapon. 4. SHARE YOUR KNOWLEDGE - inform people what happens to horses after their short careers are over (slaughter plant bound), or where Premarin comes from, talk to them about over breeding, the hazards of over using young horses or not training a horse. Engage them in discussion. 5. SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL HORSE RESCUE OR SANCTUARY - these organizations make life better for horses. 6. VOLUNTEER - your gift of time is valuable to horse groups and if you have special talents, so much the better. 7. REPORT CRUELTY - if you witness abuse or neglect, report it to local animal control or your county sheriff. Someone cruel to animals is cruel to humans, too. 8. PROTECT THE AMERICAN WILD HORSE - mustangs have a special place in our history and you can support federal and local legislation by writing emails and letters to your government reps. 9. KEEP YOUR HORSE SAFE AND HEALTHY - if you own a horse, maintain its health with regular hoof, medical and dental check-ups. Make sure they are companioned as horses suffer living alone - even a goat makes a good companion. Feed what the horse needs, if you are seeing ribs and hip bones, the horse is not getting enough, if you can't afford to buy more feed, then give the horse to someone who can, just be sure to check the person out and make sure they are not selling the horse to slaughter or just going to turn out and sell the horse to anyone that has the money. . 10. PLAN AHEAD FOR YOUR HORSE'S CARE - your health and finances change so what happens to your horse of you can't care for it anymore? Research your options, including a pet trust. Horses live into their mid 20s and early 30s now - that's a lifetime of commitment.
Crossed Sabers Stable:
Preparing for a Cold Winter: HAY: Get your hay now before the prices become outrageous, get enough for the winter (good planning is 2 bales for every 3 days for one horse or 10 bales per month per horse, so to make it until the middle of June (first cutting), you're looking at 90 bales per horse at the very least (from September to June). If you have good thick grass that has been mowed and fertilized then depending on where you live in the US you might just need 60 to 70 bales. For good grazing its recommended that you have 3 to 5 acres of mowed, seeded, fertilized grass per horse. Remember Grass is dead in WV from Oct/Nov until about April and every state has some months where the grass does not give the horses their calories or nutrients it needs to sustain life (USDA has details of that for each state). They may be grazing in the winter but they are not getting anything from the grass to survive. I know most know that but I say it because we had an adopter last year in WV that thought if they were eating grass that was all they needed and she nearly killed 2 horses. GRAIN: Remember on average horses need 1 lb of concentrated feed (grain) for every 100 lbs of body weight, so on average horses need about 10 lbs of grain a day, more when its very cold or if they are living outside in a run because much of their calories go to keeping them warm. Some horses need more so its critical to watch to make sure their ribs and hip bones are staying meaty and covered. If you see ribs, the horse is too thin and needs more calories, not supplements but more calories.. Easy keepers may be round but it does not mean they are healthy, most easy keepers need a multi vitamin to stay healthy. WATER: One of the most critical things needed in winter is clean fresh water all the time, anywhere from 5 to 20 gallons per day per horse and everyone knows what a pain that is when there is ice and snow on the ground but its critical to preventing colic. Get your electric heaters, defrosters now, heated buckets, what ever it takes to make sure they have good water in front of them all the time and at least 10 gallons (2 flat backed buckets at the very least). Here we keep 100 gallons troughs in the stalls since we have big stalls, its much easier than frozen buckets in winter, all we do is break the ice and remove it most days and put a heater in them on really cold days. We use a sump pump to empty water and scrub troughs each week which keeps water fresh and clean. SHELTER: Domestic horses need shelter, they are not wild and can not survive outside without shelter or some kind of heavy waterproof rug to keep them warm during snow/ice and freezing temperatures but the best is a closed in shelter that is free from drafts (meaning its closed on all 4 sides with some sort of ventilation). Wild horses first of all don't live very long, living outside in the elements is very hard on them, secondly wild horses move in cold temperatures to keepselves warm and they often times move over thousands of acres to keep warm or to find cover or water. No domestic horse can not do that on 5, 20 or even 100 acres. Just because your horse has learned to survive in bad weather does not mean its good for them, they need shelter in bad weather. CARE: Its important to make kids take care of their horses but they must have adult supervision on a daily basis to make sure horses are getting what they need. Trust me, I usually have 30 year olds working in our barn and I still have to be there daily to make sure things are done, that they have clean water, especially when its cold because our young helpers want to get out of the weather and then the horses are left at risk for colic. Every day check your child's work, do not leave your horses care to a child (completely).
The Woman I will Be
The perfect analogies for why we have the life school tied into SWAP and animal welfare work: "Everyone thought we took this broken down horse and saved him but really he saved us" Jockey Red Pollard from the movie Seabiscuit
I rescued a human today Her eyes met mine as she walked down the corridor peering apprehensively into the kennels. I felt her need instantly and knew I had to help her. I wagged my tail, not too exuberantly, so she wouldn't be afraid. As she stopped at my kennel I blocked her view from a little accident I had in the back of my cage. I didn't want her to know that I hadn't been walked today. Sometimes the shelter keepers get too busy and I didn't want her to think poorly of them. As she read my kennel card I hoped that she wouldn't feel sad about my past. I only have the future to look forward to and want to make a difference in someone's life. She got down on her knees
and made little kissy sounds at me. Gentle fingertips caressed my neck; she was desperate for companionship. A tear fell down her cheek and I raised my paw to assure her that all would be well. Soon my kennel door opened and her smile was so bright that I instantly jumped into her arms. I would promise to keep her safe. I would promise to always be by her side. I would promise to do everything I could to see that radiant smile and sparkle in her eyes. I was so fortunate that she
came down my corridor. I rescued a human today.
Baggage Now that I'm
home, bathed, settled and fed, Hmm, Yes, here
it is, right on the top I loved them,
the others, the ones who left me, Do you have the
time to help me unpack?
A young boy was walking along the beach
"To that seahorse . . . it will".
Some folks said they missed my great goals list for 2010, so here it is back again 1. Spend an hour a day with your horses, not just feeding, training and turning out, but real quality time doing something that is enjoyable for the both of you. Grooming or hand walking is a great way to bond with your horse and good for both you and the horse. 2. Get your loved ones more involved in your horses. Divorce is the biggest reason we see horses coming back to us. Don't just share the work, share the fun too and find something they really enjoy doing with horses. 3. Learn a new discipline, go to a clinic, a horse show, or equine affaire. Come to one of our clinics or watch a training video. If you are an adopter you can check out books and video's from SWAP's Library for just shipping costs. Take a lesson at least once a month or Bring your adoption horse here and we will help you. The better you are, the more fun you will have. 4. Make a plan for your horse after you are gone or if you have a major injury, let your Will Executor know your plans. Make a plan for emergencies or financial bumps along the way for your horse. Have a plan if you or your horse gets injured, even for the tough times of year like winter (or summer down south and for a drought winter when hay prices skyrocket). Ask friends, family and neighbors to be part of your plan, most people that don't have horses or a farm love the idea of getting away and helping. And people can not resist someone when they are asking for help for the welfare of an innocent animal. 5. Get yourself healthy and in better shape to prevent injury, to live a long life and to more enjoy your horses. Eat 1-1-1 (one ounce of dark chocolate, one ounce of fresh walnuts, one glass of red wine daily) and 2-2-2 (2 servings of fresh vegis, 2 of fresh fruit and get 2 sources of fat free calcium). Drink 100 ounces of spring water a day, get a whole house water filter. Change over to Sea-salt. Take one teaspoon of apple cider vinegar every morning to keep your body alkaline (cancer and disease can not grow in an alkaline body). Eat more fish and chicken and less red meat. Get a good air cleaner and do daily deep breathing exercises, get outside in the fresh air and sunshine for at least 1/2 hour every day. Get away from high fat food, processed foods, fast food, can or boxed food, sugar or artificial sweeteners, soda and don't eat anything if you can't read all the ingredients and know exactly what is in it. Clean all vegis and fruits thoroughly, buy organic, buy ocean caught fish, not farm raised, buy fresh meat and raw milk, not packed or processed. Eat only natural carbs (potatoes, rice, oats) bake/broil or steam everything. Get 8 hours of sleep, reduce stress/risk (reduce commuting by car pooling, tight schedules, cell phone use in the car, watch or read the news only once a day or better yet once a week. Do one hour of walking, yoga or weight training every day and it will make you strong, lean, you'll look great and get wonderful complements from friends, coworkers and loved ones and the horse work will be easier and more enjoyable. 6. Stay clear of negative people and those very negative chat rooms and bulletin boards, they seem innocent but every time you go to them you lose a bit of your positive self, they are truly emotional vampires that will leave only a shell of a person. They are not based on the truth, they are based on harassment, complaining, whining and dishonesty. We all become tomorrow what we are around today, every person we come in contact with defines who we are tomorrow so be careful who you choose for friends, even the websites you go to as each of them affect who you are tomorrow. Do you want to be a bitter, miserable, complaining person or do you want to be happy, inspired and honorable, all that is affected by the decisions you make today. Stay away from Toxic people and Toxic websites/forums that are negative or that spend all their time talking bad about people and their horses. What you are around today and what you are doing today is what you will be tomorrow. Stop Complaining and be Thankful for what you have. If you become a target of harassment or anyone saying anything negative about you, if you are doing only good, positive things and not hurting anyone then ignore them, its all based on jealousy and a sick sort of wish to be like you. They have the problem, not you. 7. Read at least one book on training your horse and one on care each year, if for nothing else but just inspiration. SWAP has a great library of books/videos that adopters can check out for just the cost of mailing it. Click here to see our Library 8. Get carrots/apples every time you go to the store, your horses will love you for it and always come running when you call. Don't feed candy or anything sweeter. Carrots are sweet enough. Get rid of the sweet feeds and you'll get rid of the hot horse once and for all. 9. Realize that if you are having a problem with your horse, more likely than not, the problem is you. Learn more, practice more, ask in a different way, be patient, change their environment or daily schedule to better suit them. Taking better care of a horse always brings out the best in that horse. Good feed/hay, time to rest in a quiet stall out of the elements, lots of fresh water, time to be with you and time to just be a horse, time with their buddies, farrier and vet care always done is a good start. The biggest part of this relationship puzzle is you, not the horse. If you are struggling, then you need to learn more and get better. 10. Ride at least once a week, regardless of weather. Use this time as your down time for healing, your therapy, your time to relieve stress and the pressures of daily life. Even if you don't ride, go sit and read a book in the pasture with the horses or sit in the barn and listen to them munch on dinner, away from the crowd and noise of your day. Enjoy the peace and quiet, enjoy hearing happy horses eating dinner or grass in the pasture. 11. Spend time leisurely grooming your horse once a week. Rubber curries are shine makers. You will have a beautiful horse and a very loyal friend who will do anything for you. 12. Come and spend a week at SWAP HQ, volunteering and focusing on helping a horse and giving will change your life plus it will be the best vacation you ever had. Help an animal in need, whether fostering, being one of our state reps that goes out to check on our horses in their homes or helps us approve adopters in their area. Find horses in need and help us find them homes. Buy a horse at a slaughter auction, get it fat and trained and we'll help you place it into a good home. Foster and volunteer for your local small animal adoption program. I promise, the good things you do will come back to you a hundred times over. Every person has a talent they can offer and if you help one horse or one dog or cat find a good home, you have changed their life forever. 13. Know that every goal is obtainable and it starts with a single step. Take that first step today!! No matter what it is or how big, YOU CAN DO IT!! Every goal that is written down will come true (really!). Every famous person, every great or notable scientist, author, trainer/rider, parent or friend started out as just a thought, just a goal. Remember to take one step today to reach your goals. 14. Start every day with thinking about, what is the most important thing I can do today to change my life and make it better. Do that one thing and in 30 days your life will be totally different. Can you imagine what your life would be like if you did that for 60, 90 or even 365 days a year. The opportunities are endless. 15. Want to keep your horse sound for life? (That should be every horse owners number one goal) do a long slow warm up (cold muscle is easy to injure, a warm one is nearly impossible to injure). The very best cool down is hand walking your horse for 1 hour after every work out. Yes, get off the horse and walk with it. Its great exercise for you and a good time for you to bond. Stop riding your horse during cool downs and stop using a hot walker, do something good for you and the horse, hand walking. Its also the best rehab for over work and injuries, the only thing better is hydro therapy and swimming your horse. Allow soft tissue and hard tissue to become more conditioned before going into any training program... that means 3 months of at least 3 days a week for soft tissues and 10 months of work for bones to become strong enough to jump or do any strenuous training program. Don't start any upper level work, jumping or extensive training until the horse is fit and at least between age 4 and 6 and has been conditioned for at least 10 months (especially if the horse has never been jumped/worked or not been jumped or worked in the last year). 16. Appreciate what you have and be thankful. Instead of looking at what you don't have, look at what you do. Thank those people who have helped you and supported you. The more you give, the more that will come back to you. When you give something away or give something to someone/something in need, you make space in your life for something good to come to you. We are all very blessed, if we just take a moment to look around and enjoy those things. 17. Get used to using favorite mantra's and visualizations every day, simple ones that are easy to remember, like 'I can do this, I will do this', 'this isn't going to get the best of me' or even, 'I deserve the best' or 'the gift of love, caring, and support always comes back' and take two minutes every morning as you wake and at night as you go to sleep to visualize the life you want, the you you want to be, Our thoughts become things, what you see is what you get, if you expect the best, the best will happen, change your self-talk from negative to positive and I promise your life will change for the better.. 18. Each person is put on this earth for a reason, each of us has a mission. What is yours? Seek and you shall find, finding is a journey ... in the journey and the search you'll find your life purpose. If you died in your sleep tonight is there something you haven't done that you need to do or want to do? Someone you need to mend fences with, burnt bridges to fix? People you need to tell them how much you love them? Have you fulfilled your purpose in your life? Ask yourself, Why am I here? How can I make this better? Who do I want to be? Who am I suppose to be? What reason was I put on this earth? What is my purpose? 19. Be an inspiration to your family, co workers and friends. We all fall on our face, we all make mistakes, we all get discouraged, most times we all get up and try again.... sometimes we need a nudge. Instead of being negative or doing negative things, be their inspiration. You do believe they can do it, so why not tell them. If their self talk is negative, then you be their positive self talk.... eventually they will start to say it and believe it too. Life is self fulfilling, failure feeds on itself or causes more failure, achieving does as well. So if you or your love ones are in a negative cycle, break the cycle by changing your thoughts, your self talk, achieve something small to get yourself and your family back into the cycle of achievement. 20. We all file a flight plan every single day for our life. Where is your flight going today? Just like a pilot flying, the winds, the gravitational pull will change your flight and take you off course, so you must make small corrections along the way to make sure you make your destination. Have you selected your destination? Have you picked the steps in your flight plan to get there? Every goal is really that easy, pick the goal and figure out how to get there. The easiest way to pick your flight path/plan is find someone who has done it before you, then do what they did. Its all baby steps you know. Just keep an eye on that destination and keep saying...."here is my destination, this is where I'm going, this is where I am now, this is how I'm going to get there.... I will arrive at this time on this day. You can do it..... its just like getting in your car to go to the store, its just deciding where you want to go and how to get there, then take that first step. You can do it!! No matter how big or how outlandish you may think your dream to be... it is obtainable. 21. Laugh every day and try (as hard as it is sometimes) to find the positive and the humor in each situation (and have at least one bite of a truly decadent desert once a week). Life is just too short to not enjoy it thoroughly. 22. We learn the most and do our best work when we have fallen on our face, when we are struggling, when we are worried, scared or frustrated, when we are anguishing over something or troubled by it. It is then that you have true motivation, when you think clearer. The most brilliant ideas come to people when they feel lost, frustrated, or at the bottom, helpless or hopeless. Cherish these times because its when you can come up with your best ideas to your biggest problems and challenges. You see, there is a reason for the rainy days. 23. You can't make everyone happy, its useless to try and wasted energy to think you can. 50% of all people will not agree with you at any given time, don't worry about it and don't let it stop you. 50% becomes a lot of people when you are in the public eye. As long as you are not hurting anyone and you are doing the right thing, then go ahead and do it. If you are wondering what is the right thing to do, its usually the harder thing to do, the toughest path to take. The easy way out is rarely the right thing to do. Instead of worrying over what someone thinks of you or says about you, do something amazing and outstanding to inspire them or at least have them sitting on the side lines being jealous, secretly saying, "wow, she has guts". One person with purpose becomes the majority, one way or another.
1. There are at least two people in this world
That you would die for.
10. When you think the world has Always in hope and admiration, Celeita
YOUR BANK ACCOUNT
A 92-year-old, petite, well-poised and proud man, who is fully
dressed each morning by eight o'clock, with his hair fashionably combed and
shaved perfectly, even though he is legally blind, moved to a nursing home
today. His wife of 70 years recently passed away, making the move necessary.
After many hours of waiting patiently in the lobby of the nursing home, he
smiled sweetly when told his room was ready.
As he maneuvered his walker to the elevator, I provided a
visual description of his tiny room, including the eyelet sheets that had been
hung on his window.
'I love it,' he stated with the enthusiasm of an eight-year-old having just
been presented with a new puppy.
'Mr. Jones, you haven't seen the room; just wait.'
'That doesn't have anything to do with it,' he replied.
'Happiness is something you decide on ahead of time. Whether I like my room or
not doesn't depend on how the furniture is arranged .. it's how I arrange my
mind. I already decided to love it. 'It's a decision I make every morning when
I wake up. I have a choice; I can spend the day in bed recounting the
difficulty I have with the parts of my body that no longer work, or get out of
bed and be thankful for the ones that do.
Each day is a gift, and as long as my eyes open, I'll focus on the new day and
all the happy memories I've stored away. Just for this time in my life.
Old age is like a bank account. You withdraw from what you've put in.
So, my advice to you would be to deposit a lot of happiness in the bank
account of memories!
Thank you for your part in filling my Memory bank.
I am still depositing.' Remember the five simple rules to be happy:
1. Free your heart from hatred.
2. Free your mind from worries.
3. Live simply.
4. Give more.
5. Expect less.
Our
lives with horses...
HEROES AND HORSES
The question is not: "do you support horse slaughter." The question is: "do you support the cruel, terrifying transport for days without food and water in their journey to death?" The question is: "do you support the torture and abuse of the killer chutes, even for crippled horses, pregnant mares, wild horses, protective mares with foals by their sides?" The question is: “Do you support the horse slaughter factories that lie to their consumers about the many chemicals that taint the horse meat, and call it Organic? The question is: do you support the breeder who breeds hundreds of horses just to pick out the good ones and cash in the rest to the killer buyer? The question is: Do you support the person who uses the horse its whole life and when it gets to an old age sends it to slaughter as a thank you? The question is: “do you support the slaughter workers who cheer a horse on that struggles extra hard for its life? The question is: Do you support the killer buyer who not only buys up the strong, fat and healthy horses and leaves the meek weak and unhealthy for society, but also bids against the good homes and horse rescues? The question is: “Can you see though the lies of the ones who stand to loose a buck with the end of horse slaughter? The question is: Do you support ripping the last of our wild horses away from their families and peaceful lives to be slaughtered? The question is: As a nation, can we allow this to continue and still call ourselves a civilized country? The question is: "Can you look at the footage of innocent horses with their eyes gouged out, hooves ripped off, legs broken, beaten by the workers, faces smashed in from being on the transport trucks, horses stabbed in their spines, horses conscious for the entire killing process and do nothing?
That is the question, so what is YOUR answer?
Resolve to make the world a better place for animals (credit: PETA)
Buyer and Seller Beware!! Update on the Robin Hollingsworth of Blacksburg, SC (she has several alias's and about 10 fake names) fraud case for those of you who have been asking. The SC prosecutor accepted a plea bargain from her and dropped the case if she paid the people she ripped off (the people she took money under false pretenses from when she sold them horses she did not own), she did that so she was let go but the 3 arrests will stay on her record and the record of what she did to all those people is still on the books and will stay there. If she is caught again I'm certain she will go to jail but people who are cheated by her must stand up and testify.. If more people that she ripped off would have not chickened out and backed out because of fear (Quote from them was we are scared of her, she is crazy) she would be in jail right now but beware, she is still loose and still taking free horses or companion horses that have things like ringbone and navicular and drugging them and then selling them as high level jumpers and competition horses on the internet. Her daughter works with her, Amanda or Mandy, she helps her rip people off. Beware, I'm getting calls almost every month where Robin has committed more crimes against people, taking horses, not paying for them, bouncing checks, buying vehicles and horse trailers and not paying for them. BEWARE OF THIS WOMAN!! If you want her history or to check a person's name against our black list (our do not adopt to, do not sell to, do not buy from, do not hire or even rent to list), then contact us.
BEWARE: Do not buy a horse from anyone you do not know, ESPECIALLY ON THE INTERNET, unless they have websites like ours, their names and addresses listed and they show they have a long long history on their website and do not buy unless you go to see the horse and have it vet checked and you have contact with the vet, not the seller or even trainer telling you what the vet said. DO NOT GIVE YOUR HORSE OR SELL YOUR HORSE WITHOUT A WRITTEN AGREEMENT AS TO WHAT IS TO HAPPEN WITH THE HORSE, RESELLING, USE/LIMITATIONS, FACILITIES NEEDED, ETC. It you sell or give away a horse with no agreement, they could go to slaughter the same day you release them or they could be sold and misrepresented, living a life of neglect, abuse, over use and miss use the rest of their lives. We hear stories all the time where a best friend or neighbor, the nice lady you gave the horse to sent the horse to slaughter or is neglecting it and there is not a thing the owner can do now because they no longer own the horse and they made no written agreements signed by both parties. If you need help doing written agreements, back ground checks on buyers and sellers, just contact us, that is part of our 'SAFE SELLING' SERVICES. Your horse's life depends on you being safe and thorough!
BEWARE: People are selling horses on the internet that don't even exist so beware, the horse industry is full is liars, cheaters, and thieves, even we have had to deal with them from potential adopters who were in jail applying to adopt, to employees and former trainers who totally ripped us off by stealing tack and tools, asking for huge advances and then leaving after they get them, people who don't even know us or had any experience with us slandering us on forums, harassing us and our supporters, interfering with company operations and even adopters who don't think twice about breaching their contract or forging their vets signature on applications & annual updates or even selling their adoption horse to programs like ours and even 501c3's public charities selling horses to slaughter auctions or being put in jail for neglect and animal cruelty. We are bringing each person that has wronged our horses to justice one at a time and winning all our cases but that does not protect the general public from these liars, thieves, con-artist and cheaters. Your horses life can easily be ruined forever, they could end up in a fate worse than death so buyer and seller beware, your horses life depends on you keeping them safe and you being thorough with doing things like getting references and making sure the people have stable employment, that they really own the farm they say they do, doing background checks to check for criminal records. The horse world is full of dishonesty which ruins it for honest people that really care and always try to do the right thing, such a shame. Just be very careful and get proof that your horse is going to a good home, get more than a feeling because we promise you about 50% of the time when it comes to horses, your feeling that its a 'nice' person or a 'good' person' is wrong. And even when you pick a good home, they can turn around and sell or give away to a bad home.
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Hi again Celeita and staff,
I too love to hear back from you guys too! It brought tears to my eyes just
thinking about all of those horses out there who don't have someone to love
and care for them the way they deserve to be, especially when it is due to
financial restrictions which I totally understand. I have to say though, that
MY reward has already been received. Spade is such an amazing, brilliant, and
special animal that I will forever be indebted to him and you for bringing us
together. It's just another one of those "God things" that I don't question,
just know. This horse is a blessing to me on so many levels that in the short
three months that we've been together, I can't imagine my life without him,
ever.
I took vacation from 12/26 through 01/08 because his surgery is 1/3, Wednesday, and I wanted to make sure that I can be with him to get him settled back into the barn post-op. I'm anxious about his surgery, I'm sure he'll be fine, but I'm a bit of a "nervous Nelly" He's just such a good boy, have I said that a million times yet? At the barn, they are having a kids camp this week so since I'm off and able to spend a lot of time with him, I took him out on the trails with the group of kids (and the guides too, of course) Spade does great in any position of the group. He's fine in the middle, front, or bringing up the rear. He's still not shod, but on his next farrier appointment, I'm going to ask Jack if he thinks he needs to be or if it's better to leave him unshod. His feet look so much better, but his frog was really deteriorated on his front hooves and that will take a long time to heal.
As a rule, I frequent the SWAP website at least every other day to see the
updates and adoptions. I love to see the success stories, but sometimes it's
hard to see the cases of neglect like the group of TWH's. I know they will
thrive under the love and compassion of you and your team. I can't wait for
you to get into the new house and be able to utilize the barn and acreage to
the MAX. One bit of advice, "Invisible Fence," or rather, Pet Stop, to keep
the dogs out of the street. We had it installed this past summer and it's
wonderful. I was a tough sale since I had a REALLY hard time subjecting my
babies to being zapped, but trust me when I say, it takes smart dogs one zap
to learn, Chloe on the other hand might take a little longer, just kidding, I
love Chloe. I am a firm believer in the invisible fence, however, Pet Stop was
much cheaper and had a lot more options when calibrating the collars. I have
their number if you'd like it, just let me know.
Keep me in mind for a second adoption, eventually, we will need a pasture
pal for Spade and I'd love to be able to provide a home to another horse in
need, regardless of their riding status they all deserve a good home. There
will always be a special place in my heart for the TWH, but I'm sure there are
other breeds out there that I shouldn't discriminate against, right?
Take care Celeita and I will be in touch with Spade's surgery updates.
Thanks for all you do!
Debora
Thanks Debora, I'll look at invisible fencing. I've been considering it. Sheena, the mongrel will be the one I will be most worried about but we'll have to find something really safe. I understand about tough love things that you do for your animals to keep them safe. Some things just have to be done for their own best interest.
We got all the rescue horses their shots and coggins and looked at that
mare's eye. Today I'm ordering her a 5 day dewormer as she looks like she is
full of worms. So I'm sure they will come up soon, they are all already
looking so much better. We don't do anything magical, its just good care.
Horses that have been neglected are really an easy fix and ones I have no
problem taking, even when they are untrained, its the ones that come to us
lame from over use and miss use that I have to turn away as so many hard
tissue injuries are just not fixable without surgury and as you well know,
that involves lots of money. Well, enjoy and Kiss that boy for us. Enjoy the
new year. I'll be thinking of you two on the 3rd and saying a little prayer.
He'll be fine, I know he will. Celeita
Hey Debora, We love getting your emails. We all miss Spade but it seems you
are having a ball with him, which makes the process all worth while. What day
is his surgery? I'll say a little extra prayer for him on that day. I'm sure
it will be a success and he'll be a new boy. I can't tell you how much we
appreciate you doing this for him, we were glad to just get him a home but to
have someone go that extra mile to make him comfortable and help him to be all
he can be is more than any of us could have ever hoped for. Your reward for
doing such great kindness to an innocent animal will come back to you 10 times
over, it always does. The things we give just for the pure purpose of giving
and helping always comes back to us, I know this to be true as I've seen it so
much in my own life. Its never wasted.
Boy we've had some of the best adoptions lately. they have been few and far
between but they are good solid adoptions so we are thrilled about that. Yes,
the boys are all still here, I guess you also saw all those young TWH fillies,
gelding and foal/mare, the new rescues. We are busting at the seams right now.
I was hoping that our christmas special would get a lot more adoptions done,
it was such a good deal but I think we got 5 or 6 into homes, most of them
were not from here but they are still horses into good homes, so we'll accept
that. We got Ringo out of Florida right before the scare, thank goodness.
We are still working on the new farm, its going so slow.... if it keeps
going as slow as its been going then we won't be moving in until spring 2008.
I guess we didn't notice all the things that needed to be done to make it
functional for the program, lots of things to fix or change so it will work
for what we do, it was really just a horse farm for fun in the past, now where
the numbers we see, no rehab, heck they rarely even used the barn or wash
stall so the use of the facility is going through a major change. Plus I'm so
worried about my dogs on that major road, I have to find a way to build some
good fencing and kennels so I can make sure they are safe when I'm working or
gone. Its a beautiful farm but that busy road presents a lot of problems we
did not have to deal with in the past. I'm hopeful we will eventually have it
all worked out. Poor Ed hasn't realized he's now in his 60's and can't do it
all himself so I'm trying to convince him to hire contractors but not having
much success. I think I've finally made him realize that it costs us double to
have both farms and his stuff in storage. Most boys understand the logic of
money arguments so maybe that will work. :)))) Wish me luck, its going to be
the biggest task I've ever had to take on.
Well kiss that boy for us and give him lots of carrots for New Years!! Have
a great new year. Celeita
Hey Rosemary, thank you for thinking of us. Yes, we've had several tell us
if they ever hit that powerball. That would be nice but its always nice to
know that people think of us even more.
We are still waiting on the grand jury for Robin Hollingsworth. I did have
one of the prosecutors call us early in the spring but not yet. I'm certain
she is lying to them about something to get delays and they are buying it. So
sad that our judical system is so broken.
Missy is still available. I'm so glad you found yourself a horse. Bravo.
I'm so happy for you.
All the best in 2007, Celeita and all at SWAP
Hey Ashley, Loved the picture. It looks like you and Cody are doing great and having a lot of fun. That's super. It sounds like you are becoming quite the good rider too. That's great, because the better you are, the better Cody will be and the more fun you both can have. You two are a great team and he looks like he really loves you, very comfortable and happy. We are so happy to see you two doing so well. Give your parents our regards and Kiss Cody for us. Happy New Year Ashley, Celeita
Hi Celeita,
I just returned from the farm and wanted to update you.
Fancy is just gorgeous! I put her in an interior pasture and she ran and
ran and ran around the perimeter putting on a show for the horses on the other
3 sides! She is in with several goats. I want to see if a bunch of ankle
biters at her feet will help resolve her feeding issue. They did wonders on
another horse of mine that was very high strung and intolerant.
Rosie is as sweet as can be! While cleaning her stall and run, she got in
my way several times. All I had to say was, Excuse me, please, and she moved
over immediately - wow -- how wonderful!
Saving the best for last - Lady. As you said, she is perfect. I rode her
for a short while in the round pen, what a joy! I told my husband, Move over,
I have a new best friend! She is eating all her food now. I just think she
is very smart and very aware of what's going on, yet she makes no complaints.
One cute thing: When I had Lady on the cross ties, she was next to a yearling stallion, who is a really funny boy. He kept sticking his nose between the bars pestering her. She would put up with it and put up with it and then when she thought I wasn't looking, she would snap at him and he would go flying across his stall and then slowly come back and do it again. Lady would look at me to see if I was watching and wait until I turned my head before doing it again. She is so smart! She knew she shouldn't do it, but he was just so darn annoying!
I know we're going to have a great time with these girls!
Thanks so much!!!
Robin
I love it. And, I was fortunate to have the
money to get started the right way. Don't have any extra now - ha!, but always
have enough to pay the bills which is all that really matters. I used to be
pretty materialistic because I had the income to do what I wanted when I
wanted, and a boyfriend who had the connections to travel and take time off as
I did whenever we wanted. After I got the horses, I found out it's so much
more gratifying to be here, doing what I love than doing what I used to do,
and my 'friends' from Butler still think I've lost my mind. They just have no
clue at all.
Regarding the problems we see... It's all a
learning process. There is always going to be something we wish we knew
before or know we could have done better "if". It's tough to deal with some
of the things we see, and it's always a learning experience. I always tell
myself that I learn something new every day. Not always what I want to learn
(negative), but always something new.
People tell me the same thing and I try to
give them a little bit of help, but I think with some people, they're just
overwhelmed and don't have time, and with the others it is a competition of
some sort. They don't realize they can't make it a competition and still do
their best for the horses. I know of one organization in it for just the
glory, and those are two ex cops. When people (including me) first meet them,
they think it's a wonderful place and it's all about the animals, but if
anyone who has any horse knowledge about them at all stays around them any
length of time, they begin to realize that female doesn't really know much at
all and won't take constructive help, even from a vet, and male has no clue
and is never wrong about anything - even things he has no knowledge about.
It's amazing who you run into and how they look at what they're doing. I
think a page on your site is a great idea. I have started to write canned
responsed to some of the questions I get and I just pull that up and send that
as a response. I agree. The biggest problem I see is that people don't
realize how much money or time it takes to get started and keep going, and
they don't think about how much it takes to bring a sickly horse back to
health or the time it takes to treat injuries properly. Then, they either
don't do what's best for the horse, or can't afford to do what they need to
regarding the basics. I took in too many at once in the beginning, and while
I had the funds to care for them, I didn't have the time to spend with each
one "one on one" and they all lacked a lot of attention that they needed. Not
basic grooming and physical care, but the mental connection was missing. I do
most of my work alone. And, it's all because of where I'm located, so I know
my limit, and unfortunately, it's ten to twelve horses at a time and no more.
Thank you for all of your help and
inspiration when I first met you. After two trips to your farm my eye were
wide open. I originally just wanted two horses for me and Ryan, my nephew to
ride, but when I saw how many needed help, I decided not to board, and instead
to just buy a farm and do what I could. Best move I ever made!
MErry Christmas!
Bev
Beverlee Dee
When you adopt a horse, you save two lives.
Darlin' is missing. Please take a moment, go to our site,
read her story, and pass it on.
We need to know she's safe. If you see her, please contact
us. More info on our site.
Hey you two, this subject line on this email had me worried. I was almost scared to open it.. thinking that something was wrong with Jake. Glad to know things are well, especially with him. Look at how much more quality life you've been able to give him by not putting him down. Its wonderful. Well, I'm downloading now. Would love to see the others too. Thank you so much. Celeita
I will remember that for the future, I forget that you deal
with many sad issues with animals along with the successes. Jake is
thoroughly pampered and spoiled and HE BELIEVES HE DESERVES IT !!!!!!!
:)))))))))))
The new farm is beautiful, congratulations and wishing you
a wonderful future.
Chris
That's good news Sydney, I'm glad its going so well. Just take it slow with her as I'm not sure how much she was being ridden and I know the girl was about 4 foot and 80 lbs so she will need to get used to a normal sized rider over time. I'm sure you know this, I just feel better about covering it, too. Be sure to look for a TWH trainer, or a gaited horse trainer. A regular w/t/c trainer will screw her up. I had an adopter send a rocky mountain horse to her hunt seat trainer and she screwed him up so bad they thought he was lame in the bad end because he was skipping in his hind quarters..... daaaaa, he's just trying to do the gait he was born to do if they would have just let him. I felt so sorry for the adopter because she spent thousands on a vet before calling me, thinking he had something wrong with him. I understand people think a trainer is a trainer, but its not true, you take your hunt seat horse to a hunt seat trainer and you take your dressage horse to a dressage trainer. I know you know this, I'm just venting a bit. Once we got him with a trainer that knows about walking horses, it was no big deal. Just be careful of soring and some of the abusive things TWH people do. You'll want to make sure they don't do any of those things (nails in feet, soring, feet in oil to make them sore... things that are abusive that make them step big, etc)
I'm thrilled its going so well. The dog thing will settle
down, give it a month or two and they will get bored. I really hope this
little girl is a horse you and your daughter can enjoy for many years. Can you
send pictures the next time you and her ride? We'd love to see them and add
them to our happy endings page. All the best, Celeita
Thank you Bev, It's wonderful to hear about those 3, even Brite. Poor boy must of had a tough life on the track but I'm so glad they are all in good homes. I will have to let John and all the others from NY that had Stretch know how big he is, they would be amazed. If I knew what I know now about things like that, I'm certain he would have been in much better shape too. There are a few horses like that, I look back on and I really wish we would have known more and we could have helped them more, of course, 10 years from now I may be looking back on some of the horses coming through now and realizing how little we know now. There is always something new to learn, new techniques, new technology, processes. Funny how that happens but its heart wrenching to know you could have helped a horse if you would have known more. We do all natural trimming on all the horses now and pull shoes when ever we absolutely can and we've brought around several foundered horses but its taken me years to figure out how to fix those things.
I'm thrilled you are doing such great work and that we had a
small part in it. I am still helping other programs get started and still
offer for people to come here as you did and spend as much time as you need to
get your feet wet and at least give you some things to think about. I'm
actually getting to do a page on the website about starting a program and
maybe even doing a weekend clinic. Many people tell me that no one will give
them information or help them and I just don't understand it. We are all on
the same team, we are all for helping horses, we just have our niches and
areas or horses that we specialize in. This is not a competition, programs
like ours don't compete for horses. They may compete for the homes but there
are plenty of horses and plenty of homes as well. Everyone that starts this,
if their heart is in the right place and if they have some sort of a business
sense and manage money can do great work for horses and we need all the help
we can get. The biggest mistakes I see programs make are money mistakes,
taking too many horses, more than they have money coming in and support. The
AHS recommended one year of overhead and I think most programs on an average
spend about $1000. on each horse they place so if they want to place 50 horses
in the first year, they really need to raise 50k. I know some of the older
programs are working one year ahead, I know Standardbred Retirement Fund is
always working on next years budget, meaning this year is covered. I have
never gotten that good, I usually stay about 4 to 6 months ahead and bills and
that is a huge help. I'd love to see about 10 or 20 programs in each state,
then we would not be so over worked. We always have a waiting list of horses
coming in and many we have to turn away so there are so many horses still not
being helped. I'm sure you are always full as well, the need is bigger than
the both of us, that is for sure but I am so thrilled you opened and
flourished. Much Love, and Admiration. Celeita
Here's a note from Karashell's Daddy's owner
I did speak with Rose on Tuesday and she sounded excited for Ringo, but
very sad that someone had adopted him. I told her I would keep in touch with
her and send her updates and pictures.
I know Danielle and one of the other riders at our barn were considering
several different horses as possibilites for this rider. I hope they are able
to find one that fits.
Sorry about the shortness of the earlier email, I sent it from my phone. I
was took excited to wait until I could get to a computer. :)
Thank you again,
Fran
Awwww, Maureen, I'm just so happy you love this boy. We did
too. He is the nicest horse and wow, what a lover. He's a great horse for a
family because he loves people (of all sizes). Hopefully he'll get used to
your goats. Small animals are sometimes a huge surprise to many horses because
many horse people only have horses. Personally I love goats, lambs, even
calves, chickens, ducks, pigs and llama's .... I would have them all if I
could... that is a real farm but I have a feeling my dogs would consider them
all dinner and that scares me, for some reason they all do well with the
horses, all they want to do is bark at them and that I can live with. I'm sure
it will get better with him and the goats. Lets hope. :)))) Thank you for
everything, enjoy that sweetheart and give him a kiss for us.
Have a wonderful holiday and tell your hubby to stay safe
and thank him for his military service. Talking to you has brought back so
many wonderful memories of Ft. Bragg, I wish I could visit and see the post
again, its been literally years. I did deliver a horse to Raeford about 10
years ago and stayed in Moon hall and that was the last time I saw Bragg. For
me, as a young pilot it was the center of the universe for many years for me.
I could probably still get someone around R5311 and find all the LZ's and drop
zones, it seems like yesterday and it was over 25 years ago. Boy, that is even
hard to say. It all flies by so quickly, one minute your going in and the next
you're ready for retirement. Enjoy this time, even as hard as it seems at
times. It was really the best time of my life. Enjoy!! Celeita
Hello Anita, I'll need to look at the checks to see how many you still have here.
Jake may be just sore from the trip. I've seen older horses
be lame for weeks after a trip like that. I would recommend giving him some
time and just see before slapping shoes on him. He may be fine in a month or
so.
Do you have a horse facility there? Barn, stalls, water at
the barn, etc? this will be a big change for them and even more so if they are
out all the time. It gets pretty cold in wyoming and eastern horses need
shelter out there, at least for the first couple of years and some may never
adjust to not having a barn. I'm guessing you have them both in waterproof
rugs and that you have shelter? Sorry to be such a worry wort... its my job to
keep them safe. I'll look for the change of facility form so we have all the
details. Be sure we have all your contact information as well. You can just
send that to me and I can hand it over to Diana to update the database but
we'll still need the details on the facility. I've always loved Wyoming. I
hope you do as well.
I'm sorry I missed the calls about the horses paperwork, by
the time I check the phone messages I was certain you were in Wyoming. Did you
find all their coggins and historical documents? Have a Happy Holiday and kiss
those babies for us. Celeita
Thank you Robin for the kind words and for being a voice in helping this mare and foal. I do hope your son stays safe, but I'm sure he will. Have a wonderful holiday!! Celeita
Good Morning Celeita, My Heather is age 15, she will be 16 in March and Danielle is age 14, she will be 15 in July. Heather has grown up so much and she can’t wait for the horses to be home. She said she is going to ride Sweet Pea 24/7, and she can’t wait for the Geauga Fair this year. Danielle does well with Jack and he really loves her. Jack picks on me, little things like biting my coat or taking my hat. He is so funny! I have had some problem lately with Danielle and boys. I hope when the horses are home that may help get her mind on something other then boys. Raising teenage girls may be the death of me. I do have some nice pictures of Jack and Sweet Pea from summer I’ll get them to you. I’ll be looking for a large pony or small horse that is quiet for my son (age 6) in the summer. I promise we will make a trip to visit and help out at the farm this summer, I think it would be fun for all of us. Talk to you later. Dorothy
Hey Sharon, how cute. All you need is snow and it would be the perfect christmas picture. grin. He looks great and he's obviously very comfortable with you. I can see he's already totally attached to you. We've had the same screwy weather, warm one minute, freezing the next. No wonder all our horses have colds.
I did get an email from Celtic Rein but I suspect it will be
several months before that mare and foal will be in a position to travel that
far to a new home, I really expect her to be adopted by someone local or
regional but it was a nice offer. Actually several rescues called us to take
her but they will take her and place her again, meaning she will get moved two
more times, once to them and again to their new home... as that is what
rescues and rehab programs do. I'd really rather have her moved one time, into
her permanent home.
Its awfully nice that so many organizations have gotten so
attached to this mare but she is safe now and there are many more like her
still at risk... that huge voice that everyone used to save this mare needs to
be applied to other horses at risk but I know its very hard to let horses like
this go and to move on. Its hard for anyone to not see a horse all the way
through its rehab and see it placed into its final home so I'm sure all those
people that were involved in saving this girl are really just struggling with
the idea that its time to go help another that needs them. I mean if this mare
would have been in CO, they would have been calling Celtic Rein to take her
and I would be attempting to let go and they would be seeing her through till
the end, the closest organization is the one most logical to take horses like
this, mainly because they just are not healthy enough to travel far.
I was thrilled to be called to take them as this is really
the work that we all long for, the work where you are making a difference in
the horse. We get so many horses that are used up by owners who over use them,
which to me is even worse than starving a horse because I can easily fix a
mare and foal that is starving but these people that are using up horses and
dumping them are ruining them for life, most of them end up lame or ruined so
much that all they can do is maybe carry a small child at a walk. And these
are so called 'horse people' that care and are well respected, very sad to say
that no one even realizes the damage they are doing. To me they are
the worst abusers of all and you ask them why and they easily say....
'everyone does it' like that makes it okay. Its very sad really because its
abuse by people that most would consider 'good horse people' but they fail to
see they are ruining horses lives just because of a blue ribbon or a prize.
And none of the prizes are worth a hoses quality of life as far as I'm
concerned. I'm sure you agree, its just hard to think about those horses being
hurt on a daily basis and dumped and no one does anything. Very sad.
Well have a wonderful Christmas and 2007. Kiss that boy for
us. Celeita
ahhhh, Rose, I know exactly what you mean. I put two of my old lesson horses into the program and delivered them myself to a therapeutic program in Virginia, an 8 hour drive and I cried all the way over and all the way back. It was the worst day of my life but they are in great homes. Isn't it just the worst thing to give up a horse when its the best thing for the horse.... just doesn't make it any easier, does it? I know Fran was very excited to get him and her application was one of the best I'd seen in months. Its a great home but we can both stay in tough with her and be there if she ever needs any help. Several people in that facility adopted from us this Christmas so our horses have plenty of company. It does look like a great home, people that love their horses and its all in fun and the pure enjoyment of being with the horse. Its all good.
Well, hang in there. I promise your heart will stop aching
but it will be months and even then you'll find yourself thinking about him.
You know its okay to go see him. I'm certain Fran would not mind. Some donors
can't handle doing that but some donors become very close to the adopter and
see's their old horse regularly. Its really up to you and Fran. We encourage
staying in touch.
Thank you for allowing us to place him. I just wish I could
have met him but someday I'm sure I will. Take Care, Celeita
Oh Angie, I'm so sorry. I often think of Apple and wondered
how she was doing, she was a good old girl and one of the first horses that we
placed into a home. She had a good life and to be reunited with you I'm sure
is what she wanted.
oh, I am very sorry. I guess dying in her sleep of old age
is how we all want to go but it is still very hard to lose one you've loved
for so long and you in particular knew this horse most of her life. Yours and
Apples story has been a happy ending we always enjoyed telling and gives hope
to any person looking for a horse they had sold or gave away years ago. To
find your childhood buddy as an adult is a dream come true for so many, you
just happened to be lucky enough to live it. We were just happy to make it
happen and though we are all sad now, we're thrilled you had her for her last
years. It is a very happy ending. I'll put a note on the Saying Goodbye page
for her. May she rest in peace.
Sadly, Celeita and everyone at SWAP
You're welcome Lindsey, I could not forget my favorite interns. :)
Amazing how time flies. I will be 50 tomorrow and I still can't believe it.
I'm still waiting to see what's going to fall off or stop working first. haha.
Have a great holiday, savor in the success of the first semester of law
school and yes, come see me.
I'm certain before we know it we'll be celebrating your graduation so just
enjoy this time and work hard, learn a lot. Its always that class that you
were half asleep in that you really end up needing 20 years from now, I do
hate how that always happens. Luckily its not like its all a smoke and
mirrors though, you'll always be able to go back and find the answers. Enjoy
and congratulations. Tell Hani I said hey and I need some of his 'free
entertainment'. Celeita
He looks good Debora, don't worry. Feeling ribs but not seeing them is pretty perfect and the average light boned horse weighs about 1000 lbs so he's just right. What you may be seeing is his body changing from being ridden or getting more exercise, plus eating really good quality food can change the way a horse looks but no worries, he looks great.
Burnout is a standard rescue problem, there is always too much work for too
little people. I'm starting to feel that the shelf life of a rescuer is about
5 years and I've been doing it for 10. The bad part is I was a burnout case
from my military and corporate years.... for some strange reason I thought
having a farm would be a relaxing retirement. HA! So I walk around tired all
the time and the only way to take care of chronic fatigue is a long extended
vacation and I can't really do that but wish I could... someday. The overhead
for the farm is about 10k a month and you can't imagine how hard that is to
pull together each and every month... that is my primary job to make sure the
program has the financial backing to feed and care for horses and pay our
employees that do that job. It seems anytime I take my pack off for just a
little while something falls through the crack so for now, I have to stay
focused on those things. The good news is when we do finally get moved and
when we have Ed paying the mortgage and the general utilities of the farm,
then I will be able to relax a little and maybe get a chance to enjoy all the
horses more, which I really miss riding. I do have the care of all the horses
on the weekends so I get to see them regularly but usually by the time I get
all the work done, I'm too tired to ride. Its sad really, I'm living a life
most would die to live and I can't really even enjoy it. During the week, I do
any meds, shots and supplements that the horses need, any special care, the
website, emails, calls, all the pictures and video we put on the website and I
manage all the employees and volunteers so I have my hands full. Actually, we
would be much better off if we had 3 or 4 of me. I'm the only employee that
does not get paid by the program, or rarely does. I'm allowed to be paid up to
24k but I think the most I've actually accepted is about 12k and that was
several years ago, last year I accepted 6k so the program really needs more
people like me who can work full time and not be worried about a paycheck...I
know, I know, no one is in that position or not many. I don't go anywhere so I
don't need much, just groceries and $ to take care of my critters. Our highest
paid employee after that is the barn manager who makes under 15k, I know its
poverty level and he has a family. Diana makes about 6k for her 20 hours a
week, its really sort of sad that we can't pay them more, they work so hard.
Anyway, I will still need to pull the money together for all the programs
bills, hay, grain, barn utilities, farrier, vet, website, broadband, our ads
and of course, our biggest expense, labor costs. So I'm certain I'll still
have plenty of work to do but I'm really hoping it will be better so at least
I can start riding and maybe do some fun things like lessons, training, open
houses and my favorite, doing training clinics. With 2 education degrees I
always feel the need to teach. I would love to get away some and do some
traveling, even to some cool horse events but really just not having such a
huge financial burden I think will be great. I'm hopeful things will be better
once we are moved but thanks for asking.
We haven't moved yet, Ed is still painting the house, we got a new roof on
the old barn (which holds the office, 6 stalls and will have the tack room and
kennel for my dogs), we are getting fencing worked on, the septic system, my
office is being totally redone, we are putting in another storage space under
the stairs in the main house and believe or not, the center of the house needs
jacked up from the years of settling. Ed is putting in granite into the
kitchen and I have a feeling before he's done we'll have all new appliances,
not sure, Ed's putting down new carpet in the house upstairs, redoing the wood
floors....putting down new floors in the guest house. He even bought a
big John Deere Tractor and he got me a Gaitor, which will really come in handy
to move hay, feed and the horses 'stuff'... it will be badly needed on that
big farm. There is so much to do be done, I'm certain it will be spring before
we move in, everything takes so long and Ed is not one to get a contractor for
something he can do himself, he's built 3 farms himself, barns and everything
so he's a horse stables dream but with only one person working, it all takes
so much time.
Plus, I can't move until I sell this place and I have a feeling not much
real estate is moving now before Christmas but I think by spring some smart
person will latch onto this farm and hopefully it will be just in time for us
to move. Take care Debora, kiss that boy for us. Celeita
Hi Celeita,
Spade RAN to greet me (and my pocket full of
carrots) in the pasture yesterday when I entered the gate to get him!! Shadow,
the Alpha mare, tried to bully her way out of the pasture with us 'cause she
hates being alone, and I swear Spade helped me keep her back by putting his
butt to her and walking backwards, like he KNEW what the goal was. Spade out,
Shadow in. The miracles never cease! I am loving this experience!
He does very well in the indoor arena, but
yesterday I wanted to take him out in the grassy area just to get him a little
familiar with the area. He wanted to TROT or canter the entire time. I don't
know if he was a little nervous, (probably because I was) or if he hadn't
decided to let me be in charge. However, we rode up the street past a
neighboring horse pasture and the horses in the pasture really started to show
off by bucking, kicking, and screaming. Spade stopped, looked in their
direction but upon my asking, continued to move ahead. He listened to me and
was responsive but it seemed like there was a bit of a challenge in getting
him to slow down and collect himself. Do you have any suggestions?
Also, it was rather chilly too and I know
sometimes the fresh, brisk air can make them a little frisky. It was probably
a combination of all of the above and now that I think about it, when I was at
your place he acted the same way outside of the arena. A little barn sour? But
he was even in a hurry to go the opposite direction of the barn so I can't
pinpoint what was going on. It was a different saddle too. Oh there are so
many variables and I'm not trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill, but I
just want him to relax and know that we are ok
together. He does listen and responds, but he didn't seem like himself outside
the arena.
He is looking really great, gained some weight
and his coat is getting gorgeous! All that
brushing must be doing some good. Although, I know he waits until just after I
leave him to roll around in the mud again, because everyday when I go to visit
him he's filthy! He even had mud all around his eye!
We got his hooves trimmed again and the
Ferrier said his feet look
ALOT better. Very happy to hear that, but
now he has a little knick on his left front hoof that we are going to have
Jack (the Ferrier) come back out and look
at. Shelly seems a little concerned about
it and Jack is always in the area so he wouldn't mind coming to take a look.
Spade is teaching me so much, and I will forever
be indebted to him. Talk about a perfect match, if I would have gotten what I
wanted I would have short changed myself. He is just amazing and kind, and
very forgiving even when I am falling all over him.
Whenever you're ready, come on over to Mount
Gilead and spend some time with us! We'd love to have you!
By the way, did you receive my signed contract?
I put it in the mail early last week.
Talk to ya
soon,
Debora &
Spade
Sorry, Debora, I think I started to answer and someone stopped me in the middle and I put it into send later and then forgot I never got to answer. I'm a burn out case so please forgive me. I think its mostly because he is still very new with you and with his new home so even though he looks relaxed, he is still stressed out when you ask for something new. My normal recommendations is for a person just learning is to not take a horse outside the ring for at least a year, people with several years experience after 6 months and the most advanced rider can go out after a month or two depending on the horse, we never recommend going out alone (ever) and if someone does its only on a seasoned trail horse (which we are not sure about him being that, we certainly know he's a seasoned show horse) and only the most advanced riders go out alone on a horse they know very well... so you're moving at light speed with him, its important to realize that. I did not trail ride any of my horses for at least a year, some 2 or 3 years after I got them and all were done in a group, in between very seasoned trail horses. My horses have still never been out on trail alone, we don't allow it. We just feel that riding is done in a 'buddy system' like scuba diving, you never do it alone as too much can happen. And when I say 'go out' I mean riding anyway outside of something fenced, outside a ring, a pasture, a paddock.... we always do it in a group and with very seasoned trail horses. I understand you're boarding at a trail company so that is their thing but remember those horses are trained to follow the butt of another horse, he's not. I guess most people would consider us very conservative and careful but we have never had anyone get hurt here except me when I broke my back in '97 (which was my fault, not the horses, for picking a girth that should really only be used in a ring, not for up and down our mountains and for picking tack that was ill fitted and worn out and for thinking my little speed demon here was just like the lesson horses at the college (WRONG) And even at the college where its a school full of seasoned horse riders, some that were nationally ranked riders and they did not allow any trail riding at all, so you see the risk involved in trail riding and that it takes very well trained and seasoned trail horses and that comes in time with a horse, its not something that is natural to them at all. Of course, I was still learning then and sadly enough have an injury that still affects my life in not being able to do everything I want to do) other than my own fall I can count the people coming off horses here on one hand and that's 10 years and thousands of horses, and many horses are not broke until they come here so as you can see being overly cautious works well. I promise you he will get better over time, just be very careful. He is a Cadillac ride but any horses can get stressed out so much that they lose it, every horse, like every person has a breaking point and you never want to be on his back if that happens, though more likely than not unless there is extreme weather like Hurricanes or tornadoes, its the only time you'll see a horse lose it totally, because that is the highest stress situation to them. If you watch them in the pasture, they will cross creeks for the firs time, run around in a huge herd they don't know, cover ground they don't know, cross bridges they have never crossed or do it when you know they have never crossed a bridge but if you try that in the saddle with a horse that's never done any of those things under saddle but has done them lose in the herd, its another story. There is much more stress involved in riding (to the horse).
I'm sure you know all this because we've already talked about so many
things. Don't worry, he'll settle, just remember he's not one of those
seasoned trail horses you've been riding, he has no clue why you want to go
out side the ring so you are really asking him to trust you a lot, because as
far as he's concerned and every horse is concerned that is 'boogeyman land'
things eat you out there and though they have been domesticated thousands of
years their basic survival instincts never change, just like ours basic
instinct for food, water, air, shelter, security and even sex/companionship
never changes no matter what we are taught or how civilized we get. He will
be nervous if you go outside the ring without another quiet seasoned trail
horse to give him more confidence. Remember when there are no other horses
there available, you become his herd, his leader and if you are not a great
rider with a lot of confidence, a really good rider, a good leader for him
(not just him but every horse) he will dump you and run if he gets in a
position where he gets scared of something, he especially thinks that way if
most of his riding has been in the ring and I have a feeling as well trained
as he is in the ring, that has been most of his life. I know the owner said
they rode him, but who knows what that really means, some people ride around
their pasture and call it 'trail riding'. Its not impossible to make a horse
into a good trail horse, but some horses will never be a trail horse, some
TB's and some Arabs and some of the other breeds that they have spent so much
time in the ring they will never had enough confidence or enough confidence in
the rider to go off into the woods and if they do, they need a trainer or a
very advanced rider that can make them the most comfortable but I'm certain
Spade will be a great trail horse or I would not have sent him to you. Just
remember you're trainer basically rides and handles professional trail horses,
she probably doesn't turn over horses a lot, she keeps the seasoned trail
horses that are good and if anyone is not so good, she probably gets rid of
them because as a business she can't afford liability to have a horse that
can't ride beginners in the woods and that is usually very dull horses, mostly
old that have had their spirit broken by someone or the other horses are ones
that learned quickly what the job was, then again some trail company's just
like some lesson barns and riding camps do not feed horses, they starve them
to get them to do the job. I get pictures from people who run these types of
places and their horses have little tiny pencil necks and no meat in their
chest and shoulder, their ribs are poking out and their butt bones are
showing, basically the horse is being starved in order to make it do its job,
they don't have the energy to buck or be themselves because they are starved.
Not that your trainer does such things but I see so many that do, we took a
horse from a riding camp outside of Columbus for this very reason and by
spring I'm certain we'll be taking the rest of her SWAP horses because she
does not feed them and she is a so called 'horse professional' starving horses
to make a buck. Pretty sad really that horses suffer so much in the hands of
people just because of money.
I got off track some but he'll be fine and the better you get as a rider,
the better he will be, so continue to ride other horses and take lessons. Your
ability and confidence will change him much quicker. Remember, the advanced
riders are out on the trail very quickly, the advanced riders can do
everything quicker and all with the same horse that the beginner is riding (or
maybe the beginner can't even ride) and can't go out side the ring with, so
the better you get, the more you'll be able to do and the faster you can do
it. You are the biggest part of that puzzle and the most important part of
that team, you set the tone, you set his confidence level and he will only be
as good as you are, which is a lesson many horse people never learn. They
expect a horse to be perfect with a crappy rider, well it does not work that
way.... they are a product of their rider and their environment. I do have a
few suggestions on our
QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS PAGE that you might look at but mostly its just a
matter of him understanding his new job, new rider, new home and how quickly
he's going to do that.
I'll get off my soap box, its something I know you know, but I want to make
sure everyone learns that lesson. Give that boy a big kiss for us, we do miss
him and hope to see you both next spring or summer at the new farm. Celeita
Hi Celeita, I bought orange sheets for everyone since it's hunting season. I just thought you might like to see the Boys decked out in their new jackets. The three at the gate are Toby (To Be Or Not To Be), Tucker (Doitright Tobe) and Chance (Romantic Chance.) Try as I might this was the best shot I could manage. For some reason every time I try to take pictures out there I end up with extreme closeups of horse noses. Still I did, with some fast footwork manage some not so perfect solo shots of Chance and Tucker. So those too are attached. One of these days I am going to do a proper picture session with someone holding the subjects so I don't get horse slobber on the lens. Jean Dvorak
Hey Pat, I really wish you were ready too, we have a great special for former adopters on the Christmas special.
Don't worry, you're place will sell, its just a slow time
until spring. Honestly I put our farm on ebay for a 90 day listing for $300.
and I've gotten tons of calls and visitors. It may just be worth the money.
Actually if you want me to list it for you on the website, we can, someone is
bound to see it.
I'm so glad you adopt small critters too. The dog and cat
problem is even bigger than the horse problem. Its breaks my heart to know how
many great little dogs and cats are put down, abused or neglected. I guess
that is why I have 9 dogs and I did have 3 cats until this week. I had gotten
a feral cat to start coming into the barn to eat and after months he finally
let me put a hand on him, then after several more months I could hold him. I
was the only one he would let touch him but he was always so sickly and would
go through periods of looking really good but lately he was really struggling
and I think he may have died of flu or pneumonia which started as simple
allergies The whole barn is full of allergies this fall, all the people, the
horses and even my cats are struggling. When the hay was delivered I was
walking about with a bottle of benedril and I never have hay allergies but
even I could not breath. I think its that late fall cutting of hay may have
had a lot of rag weed in it or something pretty terrible, the vet said
allergies are bad all over his year. I've got everyone on penicillin or SMZ's
but I think it was too much for this little guy to handle. We found him dead
in between two bales of hay one morning, I guess he had just died because he
was still warm and limber. I feel terrible because I could not find him when
the vet was here to give everyone shots for all these allergies and I should
have taken him in when I did see him. He would have been hell for the vet to
handle but we could have gotten something done. Its so sad, I'm either
thinking about the horses all the time or I'm broke from spending all the
programs and my money on the horses. I'm very sorry I didn't do something now
but I really thought he would pull through as he's lived 5 or 6 years with me
now.. always in the barn and sleeping in the barn lounge. So sad. Well, at
least I know he had a good home for most of his life, which is more than many
small animals ever get. Have fun with your new additions and tell me when
you're ready for another.
Yes, the thing about Katie having ringbone is so sad, she's
just a baby. That is those QH people and their stupid futurities, by the time
a horse goes through those they are nearly all lame for life, that is the
second one I've seen in the last couple of months. I can't believe they think
its all worth it to cripple a horse for life for their fun but what do
you expect, even AQHA supports horse slaughter. They like all those big
numbers of horses getting registered and then slaughtered, it keeps them in
business. They are almost as bad as the slaughter industry itself. I've made
a decision to boycott all AQHA stuff, if we get a QH in or a 1/2 horse we'll
get it registered as a 1/2 TB or a sport horse. I've sworn I would never send
AQHA money to support their antics of hurting horses. Let me get off my soap
box.....
Have a good one and Kiss Miss B for us. Celeita
Hey Jean, Well, I'm amazed. I'm certain he realizes he has a good solid
rider on his back (DoitRightTobe, I'm sure made you into a great rider) and
I'm sure you are a good leader for him (which is what every horse needs to go
out on a trail ride....boogie man land) but geesal, he's moving along at mach
1. Just beside myself. I'm just so happy for you two.
I wish every adopter kept horses like you, I'd never see a horse returned,
that would be nice, then we could just focus on the new horses that need us
but I'm glad we are here when someone can't keep a horse and I know in todays
society, people move, divorce, change jobs, their lives change and the first
thing displaced in all those situations is the horse. I'm just glad we are
here to take them back when that happens so at least the horse is always
protected.
Yes, Hunting season is always scary. Its so bad here, its like a holiday,
they even let out the schools the first day of gun season but the whole first
week of gun season I don't let the horses out at all and our land is posted.
Our neighbors horse was shot the day before gun season started, people's dogs
and people get killed every year in this area. There are people who just shoot
at anything. Very scary.
You such a good horse woman, I'm proud that you are one of our adopters.
The best horse people are the ones that realize the horse is only as good as
you are, the better you ask and the better you are, the better the horse will
be and the more fun you can have. For some it takes years to come to that
realization, but some never learn it and I feel very sorry for their horses. I
could send the most highly trained horse to a person who knows nothing and
within a month or so they can be a rotten horse and I could send the most
sensitive, untrained horse that trusts no one to a good horse person and
within a year they will be a horse that people would pay a fortune for and
envy you over. Its always so nice to be around someone who knows we are the
biggest part of that puzzle and the most important member of the team. Bad
horseman (woman), bad horse. Good horse woman, good horse. It might take some
time but a good horse person will always bring out the best in a horse.
Bravo!! Celeita
Thank you Robin, I do think moves like this and long trips
are harder on the older horses, especially mares. In more ways than not they
are so much like women, tough but with a tender heart, some just are slow at
adjusting. I do remember she was disinterested in her food when she came to us
as well but she did settle in slowly and started really looking for breakfast
and dinner.
I hope you got all the information that came with them and
have been able to see everything, including all their historical documents
from their owners. Let me know if you have any trouble opening any of the
CD's. I hope in time you will learn to love them all, they are all very
different horses from each other but each have their many positive attributes
and abilities. Please let me know if you have any questions or need any
assistance. We are here to make your experience with your adoption horses a
good one and that goes for as long as you have them. In the unlikely event
that you feel you can't keep any of them, please just call us. We'll do
everything we can to help make returning them easy for you.
If you or your daughters or hubby are ever interested we
have a nice library of reference material that can be checked out by adopters
for as long as a month at a time and all you pay for is shipping both ways. If
you go to the link LIBRARY, you'll see all the books and videos we have
available to adopters for educational purposes.
I still walk by Fancy and Rosie's stall and expect to see
them. Funny how you just get used to seeing certain horses in their stalls.
Lady was really not here long enough but we fell in love with her as well as
soon as she arrived, she will just do anything for you, so you and your
daughter are going to really enjoy her.
We'll look forward to hearing from you on how they are
doing. Send pictures when you can and don't forget your annual updates on all
3 are due every June, the form is on the CD that we sent to you and also on
the website.
One thing I've learned about Suzanne, is she is a tough girl
and a good horse woman. I'm sure she did fine on her way home or we would have
heard from her. I know she is scheduled to go to CA in a week or so so she
stays hopping.
I do hope you have many wonderful years with your girls.
They are all very special horses. Thank you for your support. Celeita
Oh Debora, I'm so glad you are okay. I do think falling off
is an important lesson but one that you never want to happen and one that you
hope you don't get hurt but I feel its all important lessons for all horse
people. We've all done things like you did, it happens to every horse person,
we all make mistakes.
I think I told you about the story the little mare that anyone could ride and I decided I would have a nice quiet ride with her in the round pen and instead of using the bridle she was used to I grabbed a figure 8, something she had never worn and instead of taking the time to let it just sit on her head for a few hours before riding her, I slapped it on her head and jumped on her and she backed up quickly, reared and nearly flipped over. I quickly got off of her, thinking what in the heck had gotten into her and then I noticed the figure 8 nose band and thought, surely she can't be so sensitive that that figure 8 was a problem with her, well I took it off her muzzle and hopped back on and she was the same great horse we had all come to know and love.
hmmmmm, I learned over the years that even little changes in
tack, in the rider, in the environment, schedule, feed, etc can make a huge
difference in the horse and can change a ride from eventless and enjoyable
ride to a ride that can cause major injury and even a fatality. When in doubt,
don't change anything that works and even more so if you want the horse to be
the same as he was in his last home, in his last ride do exactly what you did
before or do what the last owner did (everything, including schedule, turn
out, herd, exact feed, exact tack and exactly the same type of ride by the
same exact rider).. I know that's pretty impossible because every person rides
a little different and unless you're passing off the tack too, the tack will
be different but I've learned over time that if you want the horse to be the
same, then everything must be duplicated as much as possible, especially the
level of rider and the tack and if you don't want the horse to be the same,
then you need to change and the horse needs a change. I know you know all this
but you know me, I have to verbalize everything because some people don't know
it.
Even your sweet boy Spade needs that consideration as no horse is a machine and we all need to know when we push that envelope or when we don't listen to the things they are telling us as clearly as they can (like I'm going to dump you or run off with you if you put me in a hackamore) then we can all expect trouble but trust me, we all make those mistakes with horses. Just try to really tune in to what each horse is telling you, if you listen and adjust then you will always be safe, if anyone doesn't listen then they can expect to get dumped a lot or potentially get hurt. They talk to us very clearly if we listen, if we don't listen they have a habit of finding another way to get the message across and when that happens most times we are on the losing end. Its like a wrestler wrestling with a another person that weighs 800 lbs more than them.... the small guy always loses. :)))) Hang in there, I know you listen well to the horses or you would have been wondering why you got dumped but you already knew when it happened, that in itself is a huge step for a person just learning about horses. I promise if you keep working, keep riding and keep learning and trying, you will be a seasoned horse person in just a year or two. Let's talk next Thanksgiving and I bet you will have advanced by leaps and bounds from today. We all start somewhere and remember I got my first horse at age 39 so adults can do this, though learning as a child is so much better. Of course, I had the masters in Equine Science but still, I had never owned a horse and there are tons of things they don't cover in class, that all has to be learned.
So glad you had a good holiday. I didn't do much as I always
cover the farm for the SWAP employees so they can go and spend the holidays
with their family so I spent it with the horses, dogs and cats. I know that
probably sounds pretty pitiful but actually it was wonderful, a quiet day with
the Macy's day parade and all the critters.
Much Love and Admiration, Celeita
I've been tracking this situation. In fact, I was the one that contacted PETA because the police tend to not listen to anyone else. PETA gets the attention of the police. The last I heard they required a vet to come in but really it depends on the vet they call because some vets do not know anything about horses and they will say a boney horse is fine, which just is not true. Lewisburg is down south but the vets in Clarksburg are one of my vets (we use several depending on their price and specialty on certain things) so I can't imagine any of them saying the horse is fine. I'll check on it and see what is going on. We have way too much of this going on in this state, really in this country and the police don't do anything but I guess we should not expect anything more, the police don't do their jobs because the courts don't do their job so its a vicious cycle where the innocent (animals, children, women in some cases) are the ones that are hurt.
I'm just beside myself about you and River, thrilled you love him as much
as I did. This really makes my day.... my week. I'm so happy for you two.
Well, kiss him for me. I'm certainly I will miss him for a long time but I'm
ecstatic about this relationship between you two. Much love, Celeita
Hey,
Wow, Jean. He's pretty amazing, but this really says a lot
about your ability to bring out the best in him. Maybe it has something to do
with all that very young handling he had, he's learned to put a lot of trust
in people. Amazing, really. You all are moving along at lightening speed. I'm
so glad you adopted him. I just knew it would be a good thing for you both.
Just be careful, I know you are much tougher and stronger
than me at taking falls but the rule is no body gets hurt. :)))) I know you
don't take any chances and he's given you all the signals that he'll be fine
out with the boogie men in the woods so I won't worry, I promise.
Hey, when you get a chance, contact the previous owner and
give her an update. The daughter is really the owner, she is the one that
raised him and took care of him and she was the one in the pictures on the
website. I know she loved him a lot and only wanted the best for him. You know
how it is to be a kid, you want to do the right thing but really have no money
or power to make sure it happens. I think she tried hard to give him a good
start and I know she would love to hear from you.
Well, much love. This makes my day. Celeita
Mary, Let me check on a rug for the little ones. I had bought new ones for all the babies but most of them were ripped up by the horse play. I'll check. Celeita
I think the appraiser is still working on her appraisal as I
have not gotten it yet. I'll get it to you as soon as it comes in. I think the
owner estimated her value at much higher, which I suspect the appraisal will
be much higher than our fee. Normally our fees are only 20 to 40% of the
entire value of the horse so the 6k is much less than her true value and will
be less than her appraisal I'm sure. I would at least go with 12k but I
suspect she will be appraised at more like in the low 20's.
I'm so happy to hear that you're getting right into her
training and into developing that all important team building between the two
of you. I know you know this but I'm always the worrisome grandma, just make
sure she's very fit before moving into jumping or upper level work. I see too
many injuries from over work at young ages, over work of horses that are out
of shape so if I can keep our horses from going through that I will. If you
believe the research done by UC Davis in California, which I do, that takes at
least 3 days a week of flat work 3 to 5 months for soft tissue (muscles,
tendons, ligaments) and 8 to 10 months of flat work for hard tissue (bones) to
grow strong enough for hard or upper level work. I hope you don't mind my
advice, I know you didn't ask for it and I know you're very experienced but
I'm here to try to help our adopters keep their horses sound, happy and
healthy and I only want to do that.
I will keep an eye open for a school master, we do
occasionally get that type of horse.
I put the 2k of your checks in the mail, did you get those.
Just want to make sure they got there. I'm thrilled you decided to take her
though she wasn't exactly what you wanted but I think with time and patience
she might just turn into your perfect horse. Celeita
mmmm, that all sounds great Val. I won't worry. I know she's in the best hands. Bravo. Celeita
ANITA ANGELO AND LUCY ENJOYING THEIR TIME OF GETTING TO KNOW EACH OTHER
JEN GUTMAN IN OHIO HAVING A WONDERFUL SUMMER WITH JASFAR, JEN DECIDED TO NOT GIVE UP ON THE WORRISOME BOY AND JUST KEEP WORKING WITH HIM. WE ARE SO PROUD OF THEIR ACHIEVEMENTS TOGETHER.
KICKBOXER AND JANET HERTZBERG AT HOME IN NC
PATRICIA ANDREWS AND SUNSET SUE IN CT
SHIP WRECK AT HOME IN TX
Codigo (paso fino gelding, aka Cody), loving life in her home in VA, sound (totally recovered from his founder), fat and very well loved!! Kudos!
Alexandra, Sorry its taken us so long to get back to you. We love your updates and pictures, we just get a bit busy in the fall because people like to dump their horses before winter so they don't have to feed them and we get so many more abuse calls at this time of year so we get involved with the police more on trying to get them to do their job, which they never seem to want to do. Well, at least Sahara is one horse we will never have to worry about.
Yes, we are excited about the new farm and new life, new
opportunities for the horses. You and your dad will have to come up some time
again and see us. Actually we would love to have you for a summer of
interning, even a month would be a big help. We need good young riders like
you to help us get horses trained so they can be more successful in their new
home and to get adopted. Well, just think about it. We'd love to have you. I
know Teresa maybe looking at coming back in about a year, she is doing a year
long internship in NH with battered women and Jenai will be living out there
for some time before she goes off to get a real job so we will have room in
the guest/bunk house. Well, kiss that girl for us and tell your dad hello. All
the best dear
Adopter and Foster mom Aunt Mary rides her Pig for her 4-H Group. She still has not found out if she's gaited or not. :)
Sonata is awarded reserve champion at the Sport Horse inspections in Texas..... not bad for an old girl. Thank you Charna for doing such a great job with her.
Ooooops, sorry, quick on the send button. Funny, now I have Leona with an infection just like his, about half our barn has colds or worse, snotty nose and coughing now too. The temps going up and down are killing them, plus I left them out a couple of nights when he was suppose to stay in the 50's but it got down in the low 40's so now I'm dealing with a barn full of colds and flu. uggggg. I'm sure everyone will get better as soon as the temps stabilize but I have the vet coming in to do more coggins and shots of some of the horses that have come due and I'll have him check her ear. I have her on penicillin too. It will be fine, all infections are as long as you stay on top of them and no allow them to get bad.
Yes, Banamine comes from the vet, you can get it as a shot
(IM) or a paste but the shot goes a lot further and you don't have to be as
careful as you do with a shot of penicillin, just as long as you get it in the
muscle, usually one cc for every 100 lbs so that is usually around 10 cc's for
a 1000 lb horse (an average horse), in the neck in that triangle like I showed
you. Banamine is a life saver and I'm sure you're stable manager keeps it on
hand. I would never go one night without it in the barn. Its just too risky to
not have it because it will fix all upset stomachs and all beginnings of colic
in no time. Most horses that are down and starting to roll, one shot and they
are up and eating in 10 minutes. It will save a horses life and should be kept
on hand.
Sounds like things are going great. Super. Just keep asking
questions and learning for the next couple of years, continue to look for
clinics and classes and you'll be a resident expert in no time, just keep
learning and remember just when you think you have horses totally figured out,
a horse will come along and be totally different so you can never know
everything but the more you know, the more fun you can have and the safer you
and Spade will be, the better he will be cared for which in turn he will be
able to take care of you better. Its all a circle. All the best, Celeita
Hey Jean, Wow, what a wonderful boy. Great beginnings huh? He's only going to be better but what a great start. We love those types of horses. Good deal.
Doing your CD right now. Should have it out this week, sorry
for the delay.
So so happy for you two. Kiss them all for us. Celeita
We haven't gotten any pics of Ernie and Lil Bit, when did you send them and did you send them from this address? I looked in old mail and there was nothing in there. We'll look for the update forms in the mail. How are they both doing? You know Hootie here is Lil Bits son, has that same wonderful temperament as her.
Pam, do you have any more need for ponies? I have the 3 in WI that the
owner is about ready to give away if we don't place them soon and I'm worried
about who she might give them to. I would hate for them to not be in a great
home. 2 are broke and have written tons of kids. The owner even said she would
transport as far as 250 miles to meet a transport or the adopter, I think that
would be chicago coming east. Just wondering. I'd rather them go to a
schooling situation as you always have more kids coming in. Celeita
Celeita,
Yes, I sent them about a month or so ago to this address. I
will try and send them again. I forgot to have the vet sign the forms, I had
them right in my office at the barn the day she came to, I will have to work
something else out to have her sign them.I will get that done soon, I promise.
Ernie and Lil Bit are doing good. Lil Bit is very chubbie and ready for winter
with a good amount of winter coat. Ernie has also grown a much better winter
coat this fall. He is doing ok, he's very resistant about cantering but were
getting there. There is a teenage girl here who just loves him and works with
him alot.
I really don't need any other ponies, if they could be sold
or re-placed I might beable to help you but many people don't want to deal
with the adoption situation. Right now is not a good time to put out extra
money to ship, feed and care for 3 extra ponies that will not work all winter,
I try to save every last $ to be sure I can take care of what I have.We don't
have an indoor so our horses basically get all winter off! I really wish I
could help!
I have been looking at that little grey mustang mare that
looks like an appy, she is very cute, she has been very tempting to me! Sounds
like a nice little horse.
I will try and send the pictures again in a day or so. I
will give you an email to let you know when they are coming.
Pam
Ernie and Amy Oct 06
Lil Bit and a Summer Camp Student Aug 06 (for those of you who are new to
SWAP, Lil Bit is the dam of our own little Hoot Mon (looking for a home
right now) and Hootie is a duplicate of Lil Bit, a great little pony!!
Lil Bit Aug 06
Ernie and Emily Aug 06
Ernie and Dawn May 06 participating in Memorial Day Parade
Lil Bit and Summer Camp Student 06
Lil Bit getting a hug from a student Aug 06
Lil Bit and Camp Student July 05
haha, these are great pictures. They both look great, ahhhh
lil bit, she's such a sweetie. How are they both holding up to being lesson
horses? I know some love it and some just want to be with one person. It looks
like both have settled in nicely...... the kids are so cute. Nothing better
than kids with horses..... and Ernie doing a parade too. What a hoot. Well,
thank you for the update. I'm sure this is a real chore every year for a busy
facility, we do appreciate it. Thank you for giving them both great homes.
PS. We can certainly send you the little mustang. She does
look like a great horse. very relaxed with the riders even though she is not
being ridden regularly. That's always a good sign. All we need is contract and
her fee.... we'll be having a great Christmas special so keep watching and
think about adopting her. Celeita
Thank you Laurie, if you want you can just fax what you have of hers. That's fine. The fax number is below. That way you can keep the originals without making copies. I knew you two would make a good match. Thank you for giving her such a great home. She is such a sweetheart, isn't she? What a love. Well, give her a kiss and tell her we were asking about her. All the best, Celeita
I'm glad you wrote Starr, I was thinking of you all this morning. Sounds like all is well.
The WV weather, wetness and cold will be an adjustment for him coming from
the south west so that is probably why he does no like going out in the rain,
he came from a place where it didn't rain at all. It will take him about a
year to get totally past that. He may not even grow a winter coat and I wanted
to mention that I have some waterproof rugs that I could probably give you one
for him because with out a good coat, he'll need a heavy water proof rug.
Usually they are put on and taken off at 40 degrees but some wait until
freezing temperatures to put them on but the one thing you don't want is once
the temps get to be about 45, they need to come off as the horse will sweat up
which will be worse than not having any blanket at all. Plan on coming over
one day and we'll find one that will fit him. I wanted to do that before he
left and we got so busy with both him and Spade going out at the same time.
On that CD that I sent to you, did you look at the whole thing? Is Malones
historical documents on it and his pictures from here? I think I hit 'make
that cd again' and stopped it when I realized all of spades stuff would copy
on it too but I thought I put all of Malones information on there as well.
Well, just let me know and I can make you a new one. Very sorry.
I wanted to make a point about cracked corn, we feed pellets mixed with
cracked corn because it keeps the horses round without all the big costs of
horse feed. If you see that Malone is losing weight I would recommend adding
cracked corn to his feed, as with being out a lot more he may need more feed
but cracked corn is only $166. for a ton, which is much cheaper than horse
pellets or sweet feed which sits around $230 to $250. a ton, so if you are
struggling with keeping him round get more cracked corn and it will be an easy
solution to keeping his weight up where it should be..... which is basically
you want to be able to feel the ribs but not see them on all horses. I know
southern states in west union delivers feed for $15. and will bring you all
the cracked corn and pellets you can store and keep dry.... it usually lasts
several months as long as its kept dry. Just wanted you to know.... its the
reason we feed cracked corn (high calories for low money) as with so many
horses we really have to watch our costs without skimping on care.
We could not believe Malone on his head. We figured he must have fallen in
that little indoor turn out area in the barn or hit his head on the feeder or
something. Its Murphy's Law of Adoption, .... "if something is going to happen
to a horse, it will happen the night before they are due to leave to their new
home".... that is why we normally don't let them out the night before they
leave because inevitably they hurt themselves.... not bad but just enough that
the adopter is wondering what happened and rightly so. We felt so sorry for
him that that happened but horses seem to do that. We walked in the barn the
next morning and there he was.... uggggg. Poor guy. I'm sure it will get
better but he'll just look like he's been in a bar brawl for a few days. Very
sorry that happened right before he came to you but thank goodness you just
saw him Saturday so you know what he looks like without the bump on his head.
So glad things are going well. I fell in love with this boy immediately and
I will miss him but he needs his own family and his own humans to love him all
the time instead of sharing my love with 30 other horses.... so this is good.
Please let us help you if you are having any trouble with anything, that is
what we are here for.
I would recommend getting his teeth done by Dr. Winfred Masset from
Audobon Vet Clinic in Clarksburg, he's $100. but he does a power float and I
think you will find he may even need less feed once his teeth are done
correctly. I have a feeling they are way past due. Winnie is about the best
around and when I save my pennies up for their teeth that is who I call.
Usually once they are his age you'll want to do his teeth once a year.... much
like older people, older horses have more teeth maintenance but the float
should be the only thing he needs.
Well, enjoy. Celeita
Okay Starr, I will look for a rug for him, if you don't hear from me by mid week, email and remind me, I will be here all weekend. We'll also get you Malone's information as well. Very sorry. I hope I did not send Malones with Spades adopter. Silly me.
He's such a good boy. Funny about bear... well she can probably stand to
learn that horses are not big play toys. Buddy misses her but its good she has
her own family. Did you find the paperwork on her appointment this week in
Clarksburg to get fixed? Actually if you are going to Clarksburg, just stop by
and we'll go digging in the attic to see what we can find for Malone for a
rug. He'll need it, this is a big change for him. Celeita
Okay Starr, I will call Audobon and let them know.
Certainly Saturday is fine to stop by. I'll make some attempt to go
through some of them ahead of time If I can. Just let me know what time so I
can be looking for you. Lets my forget a CD with Malones information.
Is his weight holding up? Just watch him pretty close, many horses lose
during a move so you have to catch it early so they don't get way too thin.
Is he growing any winter coat at all? It may take him a year or two to grow
a coat but he may never grow a coat. I had a stallion that never did.... too
many years with heavy rugs.
Well, kiss those babies for us. Celeita
Okay Starr, sounds perfect. See you then. Celeita
This is super news Katie, sometimes it just takes some time to find the person that clicks with certain horses. I know Teresa loved Orphy and would have adopted him if she were finished with grad school and settled. Black as we both know is a special horse that takes a special placement, not everyone can handle him but she must be a great rider. That's fantastic, We'll look for their application. Thank you again. Celeita
Rosie, we got the papers out today for you. You'll have them soon. Congratulations on a great year. We know she is in a wonderful home. We look forward for more traveling pictures of you two. We love to see someone who takes their horse with them on vacation. That's super. I think she will make a wonderful momma, just as she's been a great horse to ride. PS. probably won't get to move until spring, unless we sell them place and then I'll move immediately. Know anyone looking for a great farm? Celeita
Yes, I am just doing a lot of longing to help get her fit
and muscled I don't plan on riding her very much until she is stronger. She
has settled in to the "herd" well. My European trainer is here so I will have
him watch her at liberty and get his feedback.
I will keep you posted .
Thanks Val
Dear Celeita,
Judy, this is great news. I saw the pictures you sent
earlier and from the pictures it looked like you were having lots of fun on
her, I saw the picture of you and the gentleman and didn't know if it was a
trainer, a friend or hubby. Hey, well there is nothing better than having your
better half enjoying horses too. Good for you.
Turn out time is critical to keeping a horse sane, we have
seen people boarding at city stables who only let horses out 2 or 3 hours a
day and some only let horses out a couple times a week for a few hours. Its a
perfect way to get a crazy horse, its something that requires a perfect
balance and its different for every horse, too much turn out and many horses
get wild and difficult to handle but not enough will get you a crazy horse
too. We'll I'm so happy for you two and that you didn't give up. Is the
financial situation pretty stable now as well, I know you got a better job or
more hours but it seemed that had fixed itself too. Well, these things happen
to all of us, just glad we are here to take the horse if necessary, so glad
you were able to work everything out and that things are better for you,
sometimes just a change in environments can totally change the horse, like
people they are a product of their environment.
Well, so happy for you two. Thank you for giving her a great
home. Celeita
Rock Doctor and SukhoiI apologize for the late report. I'm paperwork/time challenged. Anyway, Doc and Sukhoi are both doing well. At the end of 2005 we had boarded them so that they could be ridden more consistently over the winter, but we brought them home in January as we decided to use the board money towards improvements on our farm. They are both being worked with at home now...we just started Clinton Anderson training.....Doc is still in shock. He doesn't understand why I want him out of my space! He enjoys being in charge of his herd (Sukhoi and my Paso Fino Boo Boo), and is a very calm, thinking horse. I really enjoy working with him. He continues to have the clicking in his right hind leg. It has not improved or worsened since he arrived but we have decided to work with him to be a trail horse. I think he will enjoy that. Sukhoi is still growing! She's about 15 2 right now and I would expect that she will finish around Doc's size 15 3. Small for a trakehner/swedish warmblood cross but when you look at her she looks more like a throwback to her Arab lineage, with a full neck and shoulder. She is probably the hottest horse in the barn (again the Arab throwback) ( and we have a very nutty thoroughbred!...not Doc) but she is also very sweet and smart. She has to be turned out or she will prance in place in her stall, and we are doing a lot of desensitizing with her. She is just very lightly started under saddle as she needs finishing on the ground, but this will not be an issue for her as she is very smart and we are not in a hurry. Both horses go out all day (weather permitting) and are fed Buckeye Cadence am and pm. They receive as much hay as they would like 3 times per day, unless they are out on the spring/summer grass...then they receive hay am and pm. We are currently keeping them in straw, which they seem to like. They are both vaccinated for Potomac horse fever, east and west encephalitis, rabies, tetanus, and west nile. This should be sufficient as they are not in contact with any other horses at this point. (one point of issue is that Doc is very difficult to vaccinate....he has a vet phobia...and even for Mark it is now very difficult to vaccinate him....but he is very tolerant of all the usual grooming, trimming etc.) Both horses are wormed on a rotating schedule and Mark continues to trim their feet as needed. They both have great hooves and tolerate being barefoot well. We have not had any injuries or illnesses with either horse this year. In fact all horses have been healthy, and the only injuries are the small ones that seem the occur routinely with Caesar (the nutty thoroughbred). He's actually a very smart, gorgeous horse, but he's what's known as a hard keeper in every respect! Both horses are a very welcome addition to our family and we have enclosed pictures so that you can see that they are doing well (please ignore the dirt on Doc, this was the first warm day we have had in a while and as soon as the blankets came off.....he rolled, and rolled ......) Thanks again for letting us take care of Doc and Sukhoi. Please let me know if there is any information that I have not given. Also, we would be interested in purchasing Sukhoi, if Karen would be willing to let that occur. We have no intent of selling but Anna is looking at equestrian programs for next fall and would like to take Sukhoi with her. Thanks for your time.
Vicky Gordon
Thank you Janet, sometimes I feel like I'm fighting a losing battle but its
nice to know someone thinks we are doing the right thing.
We may just look at doing that shock wave therapy, I could probably carry
him up there if I can ever get new tires on my trailer. I bet it would be a
nice complement to the therapy here.
He's a good boy, I just felt so sorry for him when he arrived. I'm starting
to feel so badly for some of these horses, most of them should have had a
better life than they have. Very sad.
Audrey, I totally agree about letting them out when its done at the right
time and in the day light, we have to write those things and over compensate
our recommendations because we have people that will get a young Thoroughbred
at night and put them right out in a pasture they have never seen and in the
dark. Many run right through wire fences and get all cut up (their first night
at their new home) much of it because they put them out in a strange place
they could not see and many TB's are used to board fence so they expect to see
the fence line when they run. Its a mixture for a terrible accident that I've
seen more than one time.
Certainly during the day when you are there or just during the day is fine,
even we put new horses out within a week here (during the day) and they are
going out with the entire herd. Of course, we stand out there for about an
hour like a recess monitor to make sure no one gets hurt and all is well. Some
of the horses that have never been with another horse we may put them with a
small group of their own sex for a couple of hours before we let everyone else
out. It all seems to work.
You're right Rob is one of the great horses, if you work with him and keep
him sound there will be nothing he won't be able to do, he is one of those
rare youngsters that we call an 'old soul' its like he's been around for a
long time, much more mature for his age.....he's going to be sensible but
athletic, which is a wonderful mix. I think you'll grow to love him more and
more each day as you work with him. We had all become very attached to him
here. Dixie has always been a favorite of ours, because she is so easy in so
many ways and any horse you can put a beginner or child on is a good horse I
hope she settles in quickly so your mom can really see how nice she can be.
Well, I'm thrilled they are with you all, its nice to not have to worry about
those two. Thank you, Celeita
Kathy, you don't hunt around Middleburg, VA do you.. that is much further north. Just wondering, my fiance went to an opening of their hunt and the hunt breakfast.... maybe all hunts open around the same time.
So glad you are enjoying her. I'm downloading the picture now. Ahhhhh, you
two look like pros, she looks much calmer than the early pics too. She much be
really starting to know and enjoy her job. Do you ride her in a double bridle
to hunt or am I seeing things in the picture.... hard to tell. I can imagine
there are times when you really need to get control of a horse during a hunt.
My fiance is a volunteer fireman in middleburg and owns a farm there (he's
selling and closing on Monday and moving over here to our new farm) but the
fire department was on alert because they knew that was over 100 old people
were on horses in the woods yesterday. I didn't get to talk to him last night
to see if they had a busy day, hopefully not.
Our other adopter that hunts regularly, the huntsman moved to Aiken, SC and
hunts every weekend now but he's bored with Aiken. I miss going to their
breakfasts, spill wine dinners and formals in Ohio. Our other adopter that
hunts and that ran the hunt club in Cleveland got married to a Navy man and
they are stationed in LA now.... she hates it and wants to come back north
again as soon as possible.... they may even get stationed in VA beach, which
I'm sure would be better than LA.
Well, so glad to know you two are going well. I knew she was a good horse,
she just needed the right person to bring out her best. Thank you for giving
her such a great home. Celeita
Yepper, I understand about needing good brakes hunting and jumping. Yes, I know Rockbridge well, have more adopters in that area. That's great that you are going to be able to move where you hunt.
Thank you Kathy, we are a little overwhelmed at the move and all that is
involved but thrilled at the possibilities for the horses, the stability in
the farm with Ed added to the picture, having another person involved that
loves farm living and is very smart about horses (and like me he won't be
taking a salary, which is huge for the program). He's used to living the
good life with horses so I'm still teaching him how to do things on the
cheap (and he's a slow learner but coming around quickly), especially now
that he sees how much it costs to run this program every month. I'm really
hopeful that it will be good for the horses and for the program and
hopefully we will be able to do better work for the horses that come to us
and our adopters, to help them be more successful. That would be a nice
addition to the program to be better able to help our horses, the adopters
and donors, no matter what is happening with them or the horses. I guess
we'll see once we get there and get settled.
I'll put you and Tipsy Cake on our Happy Endings page, I'm sure many SWAP
followers will remember her and be happy to know she is doing so well. thank
you again for giving her such a great home. Celeita
Hello and good morning Celeita, I just got in from cleaning my stalls and letting everyone out for a few hours of play and fellowship. River is out with all now, I still watch to make sure he doesn’t get bullied. Have a gelding that still keeps him on the outside, only sometimes, most times they are all together and he can be anywhere within the herd, but sometimes the bully makes him move to the outside of the here. Sometimes they can be mean. I check for kicks bumps and bruises saw a little hair cut from a bite attempt that didn’t go skin deep but so far no real bites or kicks from any of them. I wish I had this horse 5, 10 or 15 years ago, I just love him and we have a bond already. He will follow me around the pasture with no rope, lead – he will let me groom, spray and clean feet with no halter, no rope. My farrier trimmed him the other day, said his feet are great, and loved him. I wormed him, no problems, sheath cleaning – no problems there. He is just so wonderful. I took notes on River and all my horses the week River came in, started a notebook to keep updates, I taped everyone for height and weight with my tape so I can monitor the weight gain or loss as winter comes in. I know that seeing them everyday sometimes we don’t notice a gradual loss, but this way if I tape the weight every week I can see if I need to increase feed or hay as weather wears them. Handsome Rob has such a place in my heart, I have watched him since he came in, I wanted him with River so badly, but I know that I’m not the person he needs for his training and advancement. But oh, I wanted to get him. I have never had the experience with young horses, take that back, I had one but he went to training 3 times before we got it right and I was at a place to continue with him. I hope Rob is getting a wonderful home, he is just such a beauty and will only become more so as he grows. Celeita, I know that you have such a huge weight on your shoulders with the job that you do and I can’t for the life of me say I know what you mean or I know how you feel because I just really don’t. I know that if I ever let a horse leave me, I would suffer greatly mentally, wondering and fearing for that horse. But please be encouraged that you have the yearly check-ins where people send you photos of the horse and vet work. That will give you a little comfort to know that you can keep up with them (although I know you have been bitten with this evil in the past too) just remember how many happy horses you have placed, how many families have found a dream horse with your program. I wish I could help you when you are in doubt, I will say prayers for Rob, and all the horses finding good homes. Fear not for River, he has my heart and I love him dearly. We don’t ride much but he really doesn’t need daily riding to maintain his training like younger horses do, he is happy to have a friendly face, brushing with hugs and pats, carrots and he likes peppermint treats too. I hope we have many happy years together to, he is my soulmate horse, I believe. I hope you have a good weekend, great day and give Rob a big hug and kiss for me and tell him he is loved from far away. I would like to keep up with how he does, I have watched him for a year, from the day he arrived to his first ride, playing in the snow. Would really like to continue to see him if we can.
Hey Sharon, thank you for your kind words and for giving our
boy such a great place to live. You would be proud of Rob, he's turned into
such a fine young man and I really think this girl that is adopting will bring
him along even more, she came over to ride him and did so well with him. She
has a butt that just sticks and the leg muscle to ride a young horse, she is
very well trained and will be good for him. I think they are a good fit. Sly
will be much more work to place into a home, he is such an athlete and boy
what a beautiful long legged mover but he's a lot more horse than Rob, bigger
and very athletic. I see him with some seasoned eventer or competitor that is
ready to bring a long a baby, probably a girl in her teens, twenties or
thirties that has legs of steal and a brave heart, doesn't give up easily,
probably riding 4 to 6 times a week right now... that would be the perfect
home for him. I will miss little Rob (he's not really little anymore and he's
constantly going through grow spirits, his butt is taller than his withers
half the time). He looks like some sooped up car that is jacked up in the
back.. a little hot rod. What a sweet boy, it will be hard to see him go as
well.
I do know that everyone gets into a situation when they have
to consider whether they can keep their horses, we just don't live the lives
of our grandparents in one place, house and town through a lifetime so I'm
always glad we are able to take them and find them another home... that is
really the joy of our program. I do often wish we were better prepared for the
returns as we are always lean on money, lean on help, with a full barn and a
waiting list of horses waiting to come in but I'm thankful when adopters can
give us some time to be able to take the horse and when they are considerate
in those situations and when they don't have the time to wait that they let us
know so we can put their horse to the top of the list of horses waiting to
come in. I guess the hardest part is when they make the horse lame from over
jumping or over competing and then want us to take it and fix it or when the
horse get ill and they want to dump it on us to fix. Its not fair to this
program or the horse at all. Well, I better go, I know Robs adopter should be
here soon. Her mom is going to try out Dixie so I'm hopeful they will both go
home with them today. That would be a good adoption day for sure... two horses
in homes. With Christmas coming, my christmas wish is that all our horses are
in loving homes... if I'm going to do that before Christmas this year, I've
got to get busy. I've never been able to have them all in homes but its still
a nice wish to have and a good one to try for. Well, take care Sharon, always
thank you, Celeita
Hey Debora, You'd be surprised how many people attempt to do their own horses feet without any schooling, they don't even realize they could and probably are ruining their horses feet for life. Many even try to do their own horses teeth, its crazy. That is why Spade had one foot that I bet the angle was 45 degrees and the other was at least 55 degrees.... that is like walking on a tennis shoe and one heel... you just are never going to walk right.... and those long toes. Just like with kids, what you don't know can hurt them and farrier school and dentistry, even reading horses x-rays is a detailed complicated science just like I told you, you don't go to your OBGYN for dental work, you don't let just anyone read your xrays when you have a broken bone and definitely don't do that stuff yourself, so why would we let our local vet look at a serious lameness or illness, why would you let anyone except an expert that looks at xrays daily to evaluate your horses xrays and why would we attempt to do any of that our self?? Just too scary what people are doing with their horses and their care.
Your farrier is right, you really do want to have his feet
angle right before you start riding him with any consistency and sometimes it
takes 2 or 3 visits to get the feet so the horse is sitting on his feet and
not on his heels, getting him to the point where he is not under slung,
sometimes it takes months to fix problems and really this is the reason why we
wanted to keep his riding to a minimum here until the farrier came in. It
sounds like you have a great farrier and they are worth their weight in gold
for sure. Our farrier finally came here this week, I'm hoping he realizes we
are too good a customer to not come and not call like he has done in the past.
Its very surprising when we've had him coming here for 10 years and now with
his new feed and trailer business, the farrier work has become too much for
him to do or do well. I hate changing but we'll do what we have to do for the
horses to have their feet done well.
I wanted to tell you that the girl that adopted Malone came
Saturday, I offered her one of our winter rugs for him since he came from
Arizona and was probably freezing with the low temps we've been having. She
said he's getting patches of a winter coat but some never grow a coat after
living in that climate for so long. So I sent a stable blanket and heavy water
proof rug with her for him. We do still have much to go through in the attic
so why don't you tell me what you need and I'll get it together for you.
Our closing on the new farm is Wednesday so its a crazy
week. Ed's farm closing is Monday and we close on the new place Wednesday. So
much to do..... he'll be a wealthy man for about a day... maybe I should see
if he wants to go to the Bahamas for a day?? hehe.
Take care, Kiss that boy for us. Celeita
Hey Sharon, I was thinking about River today as I walked
through the barn for feeding. He's a joy isn't he? We all miss him but we are
always so happy when they end up in a good home. We never know really how its
going to be until the horse gets there as it seems that people will say
anything to get what they want. We could have a 100 page application but it
still really only tells us about how they have been in the past with other
horses, its not always the same. Today I have Handsome Rob leaving today for
his new home, Missy leaves in a couple of days. I am getting so I worry every
time a horse leaves here... is it really going to be a good home, will they
starve it, will they kill it (as some have), will it be neglected or beaten,
will they use it up until its lame or old and then return it to us, will they
expect it to be perfect even though they aren't perfect riders and handlers.
Its a huge responsibility if you care at all about horses.
Unfortunately, its always the innocent horses that suffer
when I'm wrong, they are the ones that die or colic because I picked someone
who is too lazy to make sure they have clean fresh water every day and they
are the first one displaced in a family when anything goes wrong.. divorce,
financial change, not enough money, illness, injury, kids leaving for college,
not riding anymore, not enough time, not enough horse, too much horse, too
small a horse, too big a horse, he's not perfect, now lame because of how much
I worked him..... I was telling my fiancé yesterday that I am really beyond my
shelf life for doing this job because I now know too much and have seen too
much of the bad stuff that happens to horses and that I wish I were selling
cars, houses or maybe airplanes where I could care less if they take it out
that day and wreck it but with these horses its not that way at all, when
horses are returned or when they are hurt by their adopter its like putting a
knife in the heart of everyone here, not to mention the pain that is caused
the horse. We are so lucky to have many adopters like you who truly care, who
will always try to do the right thing for the horse no matter what is going on
in their life and its for those adopters that I continue to do this, otherwise
I would have quit long ago. I do hope you and River have many many happy years
together, I could die a happy woman just to know that one fact. Thank you,
Celeita
Pat, I'm still here, just a bit overwhelmed, as I'm sure you are too.
Trying to now show the farm on top of everything else, we close on the 8th
and start working on the new farm as soon as we assume it from the
sellers.... in December we will just be getting started on the new place. I
so badly hope that this place will sell quickly. To me it looks like a deal,
I mean I've done all the work to at least get the facilities up and running.
I guess we'll see.
How are you doing?
Just let me know when you are ready for another horse and we'll start
looking. We'll find you something wonderful. If you were ready now I would
say Casino would be great, he's mister confidence so he will come along
really fast but if you think he needs a very laid back QH or warmblood we'll
find it. We just have to be careful with QH's as so many are crossed with TB
and bred back to a QH and they call the baby a QH... but its really not....
its very much a TB cross and you see that in temperament. We'll find you the
right horse. Sorry it took me so long to write back. Celeita
PS. It is pretty amazing that we are both moving at the same time... you to a farm and will get to stop boarding and can have your horses at home. There is nothing like it but boarding in the beginning is a great idea to learn.
Hi Celeita, I just got some new pictures of Tucker at our last show. Very muddy there, but he went very well. (61+% in the first test. No pictures of that one...rats.) This test was not quite as good. He was getting a little cranky and maybe tired as we had to wait an extra 15 minutes for the judge to show up after he was all warmed up and ready to go. Still, he sure looks cute....Again the photos are copyrighted, so they cannot be published. Enjoy, regardless. Chance is getting along well. I think his butt end is now taller than his front, so I am thinking most of his food is going to growing up rather than out. He is getting the same feed as the big boys, so he should be fine. He is very sweet and quiet to work around. I have lunged him three times and he is a fast learner. I think he's pretty happy here. I tried to take some new pictures today but it's too dim and rainy to get anything good. Maybe tomorrow. Then again, I keep getting close ups of horse noses when I go out with the camera. *G* Hope all is well with you. Jean
Oh my gosh Jean, is that the same long legged yearling that
was once here? He's a man, all grown up and he looks great. I just can't
believe it. Its like watching a child grow up and make something wonderful of
themselves. You all look like dressage pros. Amazing!! Wish I could show
everyone these pictures. Wow!! I'm so proud of you too.
So great to know about Chance doing so well. I have no
worries about you two. Don't worry about him being one sided, horses are like
people, we all have our strong side and many novice horse trainers forget to
train both sides... we get lop sided horses in all the time. You'll have that
fixed in no time, but you know that. Bravo!! Celeita
About Spade from Deborah:
Yes, its 14 lbs a day or cracked corn and 12% pellets from southern states, mixed half corn, half pellets. With so many horses and so little money we have to feed something that will keep them round without spending a fortune (even with cheap cracked corn our feed bill is between $2500 to $4500. a month depending on the horses we have in the barn, a barn full of hard keepers and you are looking at a lot more feed, more money but cracked corn is only $166. a ton, all stock pellets are $230. a ton)
He is fine with grass hay, timothy, clover or just regular grass hay.
He doesn't really need it, but if you do want to get alfalfa, get the
pellets or wet down the cubes because alfalfa is very sticky hay, easy to get
clogged up in their system. He's a pretty easy keeper but you might find him
getting leaner with being out more or getting more exercise but just watch
him, you might get to the point where he's getting very fat on 14 lbs and can
stay fat on less, just watch. Nothing happens over night, if you're observant
you'll see the changes.
Yes, I think every horse north of the mason dixon line (KY and further
north) that all horses need a stall and need to be in it during inclement
weather, they are domesticated animals and we've actually had horses die of
hypothermia because they were left out in bad weather and the horse was only
11 so it can happen to young horses, so older horses are going to be even more
susceptible. Trust me leaving horses out on 20 acres in the middle of winter
is not natural at all, horses in the wild run across hundreds of acres to stay
warm in winter and they migrate to warmer areas and to move to keep warm.
Horses are like kids, they don't always do what is best for themselves and
don't let anyone tell you they will. I get gray horses here that are covered
in melanomia that will stand in the sun all day long every day, we'll have a
horse that need exercise will stand in the pasture and do nothing, the horse
that needs to sit still will run around like a mad man and totally reinjur
themselves, they will stand outside in the worst weather until they are frozen
instead of getting out of the weather.
Did I mention that I had one hell of a day? Lord, save me from myself.
Its tough to demand things from a boarding stable that does not do it. You
may have to go to a stable that does that kind of care or take him home so you
can do it. You may feel better doing it yourself anyway, because no one can do
it better than you and enlist a few neighbors and your sweetie to help during
tough times (illness, injury of both you or the horse and the dead of winter
can get tough). I hate to say it but historically and I've seen many,
professional trail companies are not known for taking good care of their
horses. There are a few that do but historically they live a very tough life.
If you want put him into a stall or a small paddock by himself that would
be great, some place quiet for him to rest, give him lots of fresh water and
hay, don't give grain until tomorrow as you'll want to wait for the stress of
the trip to go away before graining him. Fresh water, hay, rest and if you
want to take him for a quiet walk after he settles, hand grazing is always a
favorite for horses (holding them with a lead as they graze, you can even
groom them while they graze), we use all these things as rewards to our horses
after working. You'll know when he has settled a little because he'll drink as
many horses will not drink until they settle some, that is why trailoring can
become a real problem because some horses will not drink on a trailer until it
sits still for several hours and most drivers won't wait for that. I've had
horses go right to colic surgery from a long trip because the driver would not
wait for the horse to settle to drink. This is a short trip so it should not
be that big of a deal but he will be tired. You'll be fine. Just make sure the
facility will take care of him to the level you feel and not the level they
feel because that might be two very different levels of care. Celeita
Hey There! Quick update, Spade arrived in good shape last night around 6:00pm. Suzanne gave me the CD, Feed, wipes, and penicillin with syringes. Thank you!!! However, I forgot to ask her about the blanket and any other stuff. I was very excited to see him. Paul LOVES him, but is a little afraid of him which is a probably a good thing. Shelly really likes him too. The only concern we had was when we walked into his stall he would turn and face the back of the stall and point his rear in our direction. I didn’t take this as threatening but Shelly was a little concerned. I just figured he was respecting our space or maybe he was always fed in the back corner of his stall and thought we were coming to feed him back there? Boy is he smelly! He really smells of infection so I plan on getting the vet out there rather quickly as I was hoping that his ear infection would have improved but it doesn’t seem to be any better. Maybe he’ll need a more invasive antibiotic. I’ll let you know what I find out. I will also ask his new vet about the power teeth floating service. I didn’t get a chance to get into the CD last night, in my excitement, I left it at the barn. I’m hoping it has the contract in it and can be printed for signatures. Which reminds me, I got the signed Facility Change form from Shelly, but it was a fax copy, not original signatures so I will have everyone re-sign it this weekend and get it back to you. His Ferrier is scheduled to go out on Monday but I might call and see if he can get there sooner. I’d like to start working with Spade this weekend if possible. (no riding, just hand walking him around the area) I wonder if he had shoes on in his previous life.? Well Celeita, what else can I say… I love him, he’s a special boy and we will be GREAT friends forever. He is a dream come true, in so many ways! Debora Applegate Deborah, he was a show horse so he's definitely had shoes, people only show walking horses in shoes, so don't worry about him being shod but I would not be in a hurry to put shoes on, try to keep him as natural as possible as far as his feet go. Don't worry about him turning his butt to you, he's in a very strange place, he doesn't know where he is and who Shelly or Paul is, he may remember you but not well enough to lean on your for confidence in a new place.... all horses are not themselves at first, some horses take months to settle in to the point where they start to show their sweet personalities, some take a year or more to really be 100% at a new place. Many horses if they were ever in a situation where they were treated badly and most horses have been in situations where they were treated badly at some point in their life (remember the story of Black Beauty is very true and a typical depiction of a horses life) so many instantly think everyone is under suspicion until they know better. Plus he's probably tired from the trip, trust me standing in a moving trailer for even 3 hours is a very tiring thing to do, especially for a horse out of shape and older. If you or I stood in a moving vehicle for 3 hours, we would want to be left alone too. I don't know Shelly's experience and how often she has new horses come in but if she is any kind of horse woman that has had horses come and go a lot, she should know this. I suspect they haven't had many horses come and go there so she is not used to the reactions of a new horse. I see it daily almost or at least weekly so I have come to expect those sorts of things. He may turn his butt to you but I would bet money he would never offer to kick anyone, he's just tired and wants to be left alone and he will be unnerved over the move for several days, even several weeks in little ways that you may not even notice. Just take things slow, don't ride for at least a week or two, just let him have the time to get to know where he is and who you are again and he'll be fine. I would not allow shelly to ride him for that amount of time too. I know she is a good rider but I truly believe that some horses get very upset about being pushed and pressured to settled in and act like they have lived there forever, almost like a child having a tantrum or even totally withdrawing because the changes are coming way too fast. I have seen more people get dumped from horses their first week at home than any other time and many once they get dumped become scared of the horse and that is almost impossible to get over so trust me, go very slow with him. Think of it more as a child who does not know you coming into your home or you going into a new job. By the end of the first week you barely know where the ladies bathroom is much less everything you need to know about how that company does things. Read the letter on the CD about settling a horse in and also go to the page on the website that talks about OUR BELIEFS and look under moving a horse and settling a horse in. I'm certain some old cowboys think its over kill and expert riders and handlers can get away with a lot more than someone just learning but as a person just learning or even a person with lots experience that can't afford to get hurt, you don't want to stress him out by getting on his back really early then have him dump you and you get scared of him because really, that is almost impossible to get over. You'll do fine but just take it very slow, even if he seems like he is totally settled in, he's not. You'll do fine. Remember to tell the vet that comes to see him that one of the earlier vets put a drain tube in (this was not my idea) and I am beginning to think that maybe that is part of the problem because the tube keeps it open, which allows germs to continue to get up in there. Just remember you might want to get a second or even third opinion before you really know what the deal is. Especially if you are dealing with just a local vet that does not specialize. Try the first persons ideas and if it does not fix it within a responsible time, call someone else. Hang in there, spend a lot of time grooming, hand walking and grazing, take him a bunch of carrots out and he will learn to love you and will even start to look for you very quickly, even rub downs and massage will get a horse to be your best pal in no time. If you do something he really enjoys everytime you take him out of his stall or pasture, he will always look for you and want to see you. If you ever see a person where the persons own horses does not come to them when called, then you know either they don't care for them, they don't spend any time with them or possibly they may even not like them because the only time they come around they are worked hard and put away wet, if you do that to a horse for so long eventually they will want nothing to do with you and they will run in the pasture to get away from you instead of running to you. Just remember, you are a team, you want him to take care of you and you are going to put your life in his hands so must take care of him like a partner, a friend, a buddy. Celeita I loved your note, thanks! And I totally agree that he’ll need at least two weeks of R&R before any potential work. I don’t have intentions of riding him that soon either. He’s got all of his appointments lined up now, the Farm Vet is this Saturday, Farrier is Monday, and then I’m going to go ahead and take him to OSU for x-rays on his ear/teeth and teeth floating on Monday, 11/06/06. I’ll just feel better once that’s under control and I know he will too. Dr. Carpenter said that it sounds like it is a dentigerous cyst and the penicillin probably isn’t doing much good if it hasn’t cleared up by now. But she hasn’t seen him yet so we’ll know more after her visit. Suzanne said he had loaded and unloaded perfectly all day yesterday and when he got off at the stable, he seemed really ok. I was a little surprise at just how well he did. I expected him to be more nervous and alert but he just trusted us to lead him where he needed to go. He didn’t seem scared at all, he walked right up to me and bit one of the apples I brought right in half. The we walked him to the stall and gave him some hay, grain/corn mixture and he proceeded to eat. The horse next to him wanted a bite of his food and Spade wasn’t so thrilled with that, but there was no “gnashing of the teeth”. I wasn’t concerned in the least when I entered his stall and he just turned around, he didn’t seem disturbed, angry, frustrated or anything like that, it really seemed like he was just going to the corner because we were asking him to. I might be totally wrong here, but I think it might have something to do with the size of the stalls too, they seemed a little smaller than yours and maybe he was accustomed to heading to the corner when someone walked in. ?? He did it as though we asked him to do it, not out of fear or anger. I’m so thrilled to have you as my support in this process and I want you to know that I value and respect your input. Thanks for helping me help him. Debora
That's a good farrier who cares more about the horse than his pocketbook.... that is what you want to find, its always a joy to find someone that really cares. Celeita
Hi Celeita,
Oh I am so glad I was able to got back and reopen this email and discover
than I can actually read it from my home laptop. This is good information.
Paul and I spent most of the day at the barn with Spade and he had his
first vet visit. He is such a gentleman. The Vet was really surprised with his
demeanor, and said she wished they were all as well behave as him. I'm a proud
Momma! The Dr. Sandy said that his teeth were in very good shape and didn't
really need floating at this time. She seems to think that the place by his
ear is a dentengenous cyst, BUT it's not life threatening and he doesn't
appear to be in pain. She also said that he could live a normal life without
having it removed, but we'll get him into OSU for x-rays and go from there.
I'd prefer to just have it removed or "ground down" so that he's not draining
pus all the time. I'm sure it will make him feel better.
I feel so much better and more confident in my decisions with him after
reading the OUR BELIEFS section on your site.
He's adjusting well to the barn, and we go everyday to see him and spend
quality time with him. We hand graze, walk around the property, cross tie,
groom, and walk around the arena together. He really is coming along very
nicely, he seems to be recognizing me more and more, and the poor fella has
become an old pro at having his picture taken. I'm sure he get tired of having
everyone stand next to him and then "FLASH," and he's such a trooper cause he
takes excellent pictures!
He loves the apples but spits out carrots. He's just a joy to be around and
we love him dearly!
Once again, thanks for your guidance in this process.
Debora
Ahhhhhh, that is such good news. Very happy to know that all is well. Happy to know he's in good hands and that you all like him so much. He's a good boy, he just needed someone who cared enough about him to help him through this. Bravo. You've got a great horse and with all you're great care I'm certain he will become very loyal to you in short order. Thank you for giving him such a great home. I'm so happy for you all and thrilled for Spade. Celeita
How funny, I'm sure he just gave you that look saying, 'okay, I just want
the apple this time, no fingers' .... how funny. We all do things like that,
it will get better. If I had a nickel for everytime my finger ended up in
Big'n's mouth I would be rich... even they get good about knowing that you
keep trying to feed them your fingers and they will not bite down too quick or
they use their muzzle to push your fingers aside..... remember they are
learning all the time too so he is figuring you out as well.
Your timing with him and his with you will become nearly perfect over
time... you'll get to the point where he will know your voice, the way you
smell, the sound of your car, the way you pick his feet, lead him, ride him,
even feed him apples and even your laugh... over time you'll get to know
exactly how he does everything and he will be doing the same with you. In a
year, you'll be like old friends, in 5 you'll wonder how you ever lived
without him. In 10 you'll be thanking god for every day you have with him. We
have horses with their adopters that the horse starts calling when he hears
her car outside or her voice, ones that run to the fence as soon as they see
them.... it all takes time... loyalty, love and respect is earned over time.
Don't worry too much, just try to enjoy the process.
Tonight he's probably telling his new friends at the barn that you tried to
feed him your fingers today. hehe..... its probably the barn joke now among
the horses. :)
I love emails like this. Its all good. Celeita
Celeita,
OHHH that explains all the nickers at the barn this afternoon, and I was
wondering why he was wearing a PETA Tshirt, I know now that he was just
trying to let me know that he's a vegetarian and fingers aren't on the menu.
I hope he knows that we love him and don't mean him any harm. He seems so
trusting and I don't want to discourage that at all. He will be so good for
Paul to ease his fears. Paul's still a little scared of him but he's coming
around and of course Spade is just patient with all of us. I really think
he's the perfect horse for us. Everyone told me that when I found him I
would know and I didn't believe them nor did I trust myself to make that
decision, I'm SO thankful for your guidance throughout this whole process!
It has been a great experience and I tell everyone about the Crossed Sabers
adoption facility and it's magnificent executor!
You are doing a great service to people like me who have the desire and
means to own a horse but not necessarily the skills, yet. Again, thank
you. Debora
Ahhhh, isn't that sweet. Well, people like you make my job so easy. We love adopters like you, one who is thinking and considering everything about the horse, them and their new home. One with a great love and devotion to the horse. That makes it a real pleasure for us.... and the horse. I'm thrilled we found you for him and vise versa. Always thank you. Celeita
Another great day with Spade today. I went out to the barn early and
got to spend all afternoon with him. I called an equine dentist out and
had his teeth floated also. I'm glad he checked his teeth cause he found a
couple of points on his right side, he said it "should free up his TMJ"
(whatever that means) which might help with his ear. I cleaned out his ear
by hand today and he just stood still while I poked and prodded deep
inside his ear. He was very good for the dentist too, as good as he could
be with a metal file in his mouth. I tacked him up today and walked him
around for awhile then let him hand graze for a while too. It was nice to
get to hang out with him for so long and not really do anything. He seems
a little sore in his front end, but it's probably his hooves which will
be taken care of tomorrow. I feel bad doing all of this stuff to him at
once, but he really needs the attention and he's still willingly
cooperating. He's such a great boy, but you know that!
Talk to ya later,
Debora
That's great Debora.... see what a second opinion can do.... You might find out something that can really help and sometimes you can find out something that will save the horses life. Celeita
Oh goodness. I can't believe a vet called him 16 hands and he's only 15.1. uggggg. I thought a horse vet would be a good person to give us a height on him. I feel terrible. Is he going to be okay for you? Well the same vet also said he would probably grow a couple more inches but I'm not sure I trust him now. Well, let me know. I wish I could have measured him first.
Gosh, I hope Suzanne makes it back okay. There's nothing worse than having
problems with horses on board.
Well, I feel bad about his height. Let me know what you think. Celeita
Okay Jean, we appreciate you being so understanding. I do know one thing, if the horse that arrives isn't the horse if your dreams, they certainly will become that with time, lots of love, good care and by knowing that training is done in baby steps over many years. I wish we had more adopters like you, my job would be so much easier. Much love, Celeita
Hi Celeita, Not the best pictures, but at least you can see the kid in his new home. Fat butt Thoroughbreds in the background. As you can see, he has good bone but his body is not yet developed. His legs look longer in person, so he looks more colt like than the pictures show. I will try to get some better pictures soon. He is very smart. Figures thing out quickly. Toby, the chestnut herd leader, is still putting him in his place, but Chance does not seem too intimidated. He is very respectful, but not scared. Jean Hi Celeita, Just to let you know Chance is doing just fine. The herd hierarchy is still sorting itself out as Toby, the boss, has taken charge of Tucker (Doitright Tobe) generally trying to keep Chance away. But the kid is not totally intimidated. Looks like he got one kick in on Toby..no damage but a definite hoofprint, so he will stand up for himself under pressure. Otherwise, he remains respectful of his elders. Yet, during the rain, everyone was happily sharing the west side run-in and yesterday, Tucker and Chance were hanging out together in the west paddock while Toby was hanging out in his stall on the east side. Guess there is a peaceful coexistence established in less than a week. I lunged Chance just a little yesterday. He was fine going to the left--a bit rushed, but he seemed to know what he was doing. Then I tried the right rein and he had no clue. The nice thing was that he did not get excited or upset at all and in about five minutes, he was quietly walking around me in a nice circle to the right. Then I asked for just a turn or two of trot and he did just fine. I worked him in hand a little afterwards, establishing the "trill" as a signal for halt and then finished up. All told maybe 15-20 minutes. He was very obedient and concentrated well. He is very good about coming when I call and he definitely knows his name. He is a very bright boy. He is eating well, enjoying pellets three times a day and he's eating all the hay I put out for him. There is still quite a bit of grass around in the pasture and paddocks too, so there's no lack of food. I will be keeping his training schedule light since he is so young, with lots of in-hand work. After I establish the basic lunging we'll go on to long lining. That way, once he does go under saddle all the needed rein commands will be solid. Nothing like it for teaching turning and stopping as well as the basic "on the bit" concepts. It's going to be a fun fall and winter. Jean D.
No Wanda, we aren't closing. I'm getting married and my fiancé has bought us a bigger farm with more pasture about 20 minutes from here. No more worry over the mortgage payment (or the utilities for that matter), all the program will need to pay out there is the programs expenses (barn and office utilities, care and maintenance of the barn and horses, feed, vet, farrier, salaries of our employees, just the stuff the has a direct impact on the program). We are all thrilled and a little overwhelmed right now at the thought of trying to sell this place and get moved. Just the moving is an expensive venture but I'm sure we will find a way. Here's the ads for the sale of this farm:
And here's our new farm, the one we are moving into:
Thank you for the concern but everything is fine. Excited
about the future for myself and my future husband and for the program. You'll
have to plan to come and see us when we get moved. I'm sure we will have a big
open house in the spring once we get most of the work done on the new place
and are all settled. Much Love and Kiss those babies for us. Celeita
Celeita:
Jake is doing well. We discovered a little soreness in his back so we will be calling the message therapist here soon (he has had this soreness before might have to call the chiropractor).
Lucy is a cutie. She is so photogenic. I think she
actually likes her picture taken. Right now we are slowly introducing her to
a blanket so she can wear it before the weather gets too cold.
We have started putting Lucy and Jake out to pasture
together to get them ready for the upcoming move and to make it easier on
them. They are getting along very well. Jake learned to respect her space
very quickly lol. The only problem is that Jake, who is getting older now,
don't want to play as often as Lucy does (it is kinda amusing) so she just
runs and bucks circles around him biting at his halter and nipping and his
butt and he gets sooooooooooooo mad. But being Jake and not having an
aggressive bone in his body he just pins his ears and trots 5ft to the next
spot lol.
We had a warm day so we used it to get Lucy used to being
hosed (dont know if she ever was before but she was very nervous about
it).
I have never seen a horse look so much to humans for
comfort. If it scares her she just wants to put her head on u until u make
the monster go away or convince her that it wont eat her lol. She luvs
people so much that when anybody goes into the field she "runs" up to them.
This caught a few people off guard at first but now they know that she is
not coming to run them over but just wants to get her scratches faster. It
is very hard to deal with both of them in the field-it is the equivalent of
going into a kindergarten class with a bag of candy. They both want to be
right on top of u for attention.
I want to take this opportunity to thank u for providing
me and giving me the chance to own and luv 2 such wonderful and luving
animals. They are great, always make me smile when i am feeling down, and
are a laugh a minute.
Temp dropped a little too much last night and Ms. Lucy and
Jake got blanketed. Lucy is so easy to work with I just luv her. She
looked a little big eyed at the blanket but we put it on her with her eating
her hay in the stall. she never moved. flinched a little when we reached
between her back legs for the leg straps but nothing major-we will just have
to start rubbing around more back there in her grooming sessions is all.
The farrier took a quick look at her when passing through
the other day and i think u would agree with him. He says not to worry
about that front foot. She is sound on it and he says that considering that
she is toed out she move gorgeously on it. His thought is that if she don't
know s he is toed out then we shouldn't be worried either lol. He is
coming down next friday to reset Jake and he is going to give her a trim
them. She also has some mouth sensitivity and we are thinking that it is
baby teeth. The farrier is also a certified dentist so he is going to look
in her mouth to make sure that everything is going as planned in there and
nothing is going wrong. He said that he wants to just make sure that it is
run of the mill sensitivity and nothing else. He says he would bet it is
just normal though and there is absolutely nothing to worry about and being
that we aren't planning to put a bit in her mouth for a good long while that
we have nothing to worry about.
And Jake is just good old jake doing well and a little bit
tubby in the belly lol.
We are not seeing hind end lameness here. Even the barn
trainer has watched her in turnout and is not seeing anything. She is on a
maintenance dose of a joint supplement just in case so that might be helping
although it doesn't contain any pain killers. Since she is just out in the
pasture right now (the only things we do to her is grooming, general
handling, and desensitizing-just like a weanling or yearling basically) we
kinda took the approach of putting on the supplement and just watching for
problems. She seems fine right now though. She is a little ouchy when she
hits rocks in her barefeet but that is all and nothing really to worry about
being she is in a grass pasture and her stall is matted and bedded down.
She is just basically a big pet right now, which she enjoys. The only
things we really work with her on are the things that she needs to be safe
with basic handling, vet, and farrier care. She is doing well.
I did have one question though-was she ever cross tied at
your barn. The papers filled out by the previous owner says that she was
not, but I am just trying to figure out all that she knows. We have not
cross tied her yet due to her being soo tall and our ceiling just being
normal and don't want her to hit her head if she gets upset (which don't
happen very much at all she is very level headed about stuff). We are
working on her just giving to pressure on her poll using out hand and a soft
rope with very slight pressure. When she was ready we were going to put up
some ties in the barn with the indoor (which has a very high ceiling just in
case) but i wanted to check with u to see it u guys knew or did cross tie
her.
We have a very good vet, nice to deal with. She does
tell u the worst possible situation, but then unlike most vets tells u how
she thinks it is. Hard to believe that she is also a diehard AQHA breeder
and shower. (there r good ones out there).
Our farrier is a certified farrier and unlike what i
said before (my mistake) is not a certified dentist, but is infact an
apprentice to one and working on his certification. I spoke with him this
evening about Lucys teeth and sensitivity. I had the barn manager go out
and feed her a larger harder horse treat and when she called me back she
stated that Lucy had a very hard time chewing it. I called our farrier
back and with this info he is suggesting that we actually ship the horse
down to his teacher (certified equine dentist) and have him take a good
look at her teeth. He said that with her level of sensitivity to touch of
the mouth at the moment they might need to give her a slight sedative to
get a good look and he would feel more comfortable with his teacher
actually looking at her in case there is an abcess or something in there.
She is currently right now throwing her head up and craning it around to
keep u from touching any of the outside of her mouth. He said that he
thinks that she is probably just a naturally slow eater but he is worried
about the fact that she takes sooo long and that she actually leaves some
of her food in the bottom of the bucket.
I will let u know what we are going to do. I am leaning
more towards shipping her down to the certified equine dentist (it is only
45 minutes from here) to just be safe. Better safe then sorry. I would
hate to see something majorly wrong with her teeth and mouth and have her
start losing weight or anything. Also she is very determined not to let u
touch even the sides of her mouth and she is so willing to let u do
anything else to her. It just doesnt seem her temperment and I worry that
she is in more pain then usually for general teething.
Yes, Anita, right now her mouth is going to be sensitive because
between 2 1/2 and 5 they are dropping their baby teeth and getting adult
teeth in, starting with the center teeth in the front and moving out so
its much like a baby teething. The dentist should just make sure the
baby teeth are falling out and the adult teeth are coming in correctly.
Yes, I agree that the front foot is a non issue, once she got through
the abscess we figured it would be fine. What is his opinion of his
hindquarter lameness? Have you had any vets look at it? Just wondering
if anyone has given you an opinion?
Very nice Angela, love the pic of Jake, he looks so relaxed and happy. Obviously loves you and his home. Very good. Lucy is such a cutie, isn't she? Thanks much, I'll get these on the Happy Endings page. Yepper, that is what I felt, at least from my experience. Good to know another vet agrees with us. Good deal. Celeita
Hey Kim, boy Country looks like a dream. I hope you are enjoying him and getting to drive a lot. I know life sometimes gets in the way of our horse time but I hope you are really enjoying him. He was always such a hoot here. Celeita
Mary, Is 2 Wop getting all the food you are giving her? Is there any chance
other horses are takng it from her because I know she is a very slow eater?
You may be feeding her 12 but is she really getting 12 lbs since she eats in
the field with everyone else. Have you weighed it with a scale to make sure
its 12 lbs? Just wondering. Do you feed with the big silver scoop? As when
that is heeping, that is 7lbs, the plastic scoops are 3 lb scoops depending on
the weight of the feed.
Most of the horses here get sick when the weather changes, even with being
in, we go through a period where everyone has the flu so she may have a bout
of adjusting to the weather changes. She may just need to live in a stall,
some horses can't stand being fed in a field because they don't like fighting
over food. Big'n is like that, she turns into a witch all day and its all
about food. She could never live in a 24/7 turn out situation, she would be
unbearable and would actually become dangerous, that is how I got her as a
yearly.
I bet 2Wop is not going to hold up being out all the time in the cold, she
is old enough that she really needs shelter away from drafts and the cold,
much of her food is going to be going to keeping her warm so there will be
nothing left to take care of her body. The only way I think she may hold up to
the cold is a heavy weight water proof rug put on anytime its under 40 and
she's put in shelter everytime it rains or snows and about
double the amount of feed she's getting right now. We were feeding her and
Toby 14 lbs a day here and 1/2 of that was corn that is high fat so I would
think you should be looking at double that with horses that are out all the
time, especially in the cold.
That is the real downside to keeping horses out the time is you have to
feed them almost double the feed because of the additional exercise and
because most are not drinking enough water either.
Toby still looks about 100 to 150 lbs down in weight from the pics that
Mark sent of him riding, you can see his withers are very protruded and his
ribs are showing even under the saddle. If you are feeding him 12 lbs, I would
double that too or get some cracked corn and mix it and give him double what
he's getting until his weight is back up where it was when he came out there.
I never really worry about the amount because founder is a management problem,
not a feed problem and I know race horses get between 60 to 120 lbs on the
track, of course, they aren't getting any grass and the grass increases the
chance of founder when they are eating more feed but you're not feeding 60 lbs
a day.
I would really recommend adding the cracked corn to get their weight up, it
is much cheaper and can be mixed with the senior your feeding them but I would
add at least 10 lbs of day of cracked corn to their meals.
I really need to get new riding pictures of Ash and Hootie so we can get
them placed. I just don't know when I'll get time, my time has become even
tighter with the pending move and everything that I need to do to get ready
for that. Ugggg. I have no idea how I am going to continue to bring money in
to feed horses and pay Aldine and Diana and get us moved and settled too. It
doesn't seem possible right now.
So is the pig gaited or does he trot? hehe Celeita
It sounds like you have everything under control and have thought of everything and more. I think you'll find the barn will be a huge help in keeping them round, not that they have to be in their stalls all the time but even during he bad weather will help and the cold nights.
The cold air may be hitting on 2Wops arthritis too, hand walking and
riding at a walk will keep that in check, though she will probably argue
some but it will keep her limber. Plus any kind of change I find are harder
on the mares, like women..... they go kicking and screaming so the weather
or any changes are always a big adjustment to them, especially the older
ones... just think of your grand ma and it all makes more sense. I have a
couple of the mares are being witches in the barn, I think its the change to
days and the cooler nights.
Pigs are suppose to be really smart, you could probably teach her to
rack. hehe
I have that new western pony saddle that you can borrow, we will selling
it before we move to raise funds so I would eventually need it back. I'm not
sure if I have a pony english saddle, I'll check. I finally got the turning
bars and the right axle for the mini and pony carts we got, so we are all
set for driving. If you want to borrow them for pictures or training just
let me know or maybe I could find a way to come over when Jenai is here (for
an extra set of hands).
Thanks for taking such good care of them all. Celeita
Thank you Judy, no problem. So you are going to keep her at the trainers facility? Are you still riding her, did the training help? I'll attach the facility change form, just fill it out and get the owners signature and mail the entire original to us with pictures of the facility and we will be all set. See the attached. Glad things have improved. Celeita
Thank you Kim, they all look good, a little lighter than I like to see horses but certainly healthy, the industry norm is that you can feel ribs but never see them but I know some horses are just built with a very wide rib cage but it seems that we had both Hackinator and Sider pretty round here. Part of the problem might be that Hackinator was injured with his tongue, who would want to eat then? They all do look wonderful otherwise. So glad you have Sider, not sure what would have happened to him. Kiss them all for us and thank you for giving them such a great home. Celeita
Hi Celeita! It's Sharon again. ;) I just wanted to say that I saw the
pictures of your new farm and it is AMAZING (and especially great that you
won't have to pay a mortgage)! I hope that I'll be able to be an intern there
when I'm old enough. ^-^
Oh, also, over the summer my parents bought me my own horse! Her name is
Peggy and she is an 11-year-old registered Appendix Quarter Horse mare. Before
the previous owner received Peggy (Sarah bought Peggy two years ago I think)
she was only used for trail rides and breeding. Sarah didn't really have
anyone that was able to ride Peggy until I came along so she offered me a
lease to see if I could help Peggy get used to the arena and jumping. By the
end of the summer I couldn't bear to let Peggy go! She has the most expressive
eyebrows of any horse I've seen and she loves to hit me with her tail. She has
this really pretty stripe that kind of veers off to the left about 3/4 of the
way down her nose. Oh yeah, she's a really pretty copper chestnut and the only
marking is her stripe. I wish I had some pictures to show you, but my digital
camera is being mean. 0.o
Anyway, it's great to hear that the Bartletts don't have to give up Sage.
I'm sure he's happy about it too. ^-^ And it's great for Harry that Val loves
him so much that she can't let him go. ^-^ I was sad to hear that Dixie had to
come back, but for a mare like that she's bound to find a home soon. I also
saw the kitten, Bear. She's adorable! If it weren't for the fact that my dad
and sister are allergic, I have two dogs that hate cats, and I don't need a
mouser I'd probably drive right over and pick her up. ^-^ (which reminds me
that I now have my driver's license) I do feel kind of bad for Sting, Bubba,
Sly, Rob, and all the other horses that I've seen on the bottom of your page
for so long. I wish them all the best of luck!
Your friend,
Sharon Itzkoff
Oh, I totally misread your email. Geesal, oh goody.
Val, since she is more green than I thought, why don't we take off 2k in
your payments. I can send you those checks back. I want everyone to be
thrilled with their adoptions. Of course, I'm doing this before seeing her
appraisal as its just being done now but that's okay. I am more concerned
about you being happy and the horse having a great home. Well, just let me
know. Wow, what good news. That's great and that money can go to help all the
horses not as lucky as Nova, who really need us to find a home and get better.
Bravo. Celeita
Celeita,
Thanks! That is nice news. I am happy with her I will forward you some
pics do you need any video of u/s? I can try to send you for your records.
Again Nicole and her trainer were great very nice horse woman , I also left
an open invitation for either of them to stop ANY TIME an see or ride her as
they are only 3 1/2 hours away.
Thanks Again
It is great to have people like you and your organization that can help
horses and people find a nice match.
Thank you guys, we got everything. They look wonderful. I'm very proud of you two for keeping them so nicely, especially the hard keepers. Sounds like your life has been pretty exciting. So glad its going well. Don't forget the water proof rugs for the babies this first winter at least as being out more will be an adjustment for them. Thank you for much for giving them such a great home. Celeita
Shannon, We got everything today, thank you. Mail in WV is sooooo slow. She looks wonderful. Love the new facility. We are all so thrilled that you all are so happy with her. It makes it all worth all our work to find her a home. Thank you again for taking such good care of her. Celeita
Ahhhhh, Sharon, that is great news about you and River. He obviously feels very confident with you, that's a good sign. I'm thrilled. Isn't he the best boy when you take the time with him? It will only get better with time and as he gets to know you better and builds more confidence in you as his buddy and his leader. Well, kiss that baby for me and enjoy your fall weather. Celeita
Oh Kim I am so sorry about your mom. I know its a very sad time that we all go through. Just take your time, we understand. Whenever you get home and get some time. We know he's in good hands. Just take care of yourself and your family and we'll talk to you very soon. All the best. Celeita
Celeita,
Riding an unexpected levade sidesaddle is pure
self-preservation. LOTS of strong right leg, fold forward at the waist, and
spin that boy down with a strong leading rein. And breath! I don't think
he'll do that again.
BTW, here's an example of Chester's "misbehaving" from
today... He's SO EASY after my Arab gelding...
Chester: "I want to head back to the barn" and starts
shouldering out
Linda: "No way - we aren't done" and indirect rein back
onto our line
Chester: "I want to go IN" and starts to back up, shaking
his head
Linda: "Forget it, Buster." - circle hard and leg forward
Chester: (sadly) "OK. You win. Sigh."
Then he learns that we're heading to the apple orchard
(yum), a timothy hay field that hasn't had a second cutting yet (graze for a
few minutes under saddle), a trot & canter down a wooded tractor path,
followed by handwalking back home past the last of the very ripe pears.
Shying at wild turkeys that flew up in front of us was a stop, snort & look.
I'm afraid to ever take him out with my Arab - I don't want him to see what
REAL shying looks like!
What a rough life he'll have here with us!
Do let me know what you learn about his papers... I seem to
remember you saying that the former adopter had them & was to send them to
you. If I can get him registered, he's good enough that I can compete for
national points in ISSO (International Side Saddle Organization) in the
warmblood division. We hadn't registered for points before the US Equestrian
Team's SideSaddle weekend because I had no idea how he'd do. I wish we had.
The proposed sidesaddle clinic this fall is with Roger
Philpot from England - a BHS class A instructor & judge. It will be near
Harrisburg, PA in November if you want to be kept informed. I'm sure we can
find a horse & saddle for you if you wanted to come try it out. Knowing
Roger, he'd have you popping a few 2' fences before the weekend was done &
looking elegant as you did it!
I don't know of a farrier that would come out as far as
you... Our guy comes from 1/2 way between Morgantown and Pittsburgh to do us
every 4-5 weeks. (We're 35 minutes E of Morgantown). We were his first
customers when he got out of his 6 month farrier school 3 years ago. The
first time he came out, he was so slow that Buck fell asleep and went to his
knees. :-0 He's gotten faster & better since. He's looking into getting a
forge for some corrective & custom work now. I'll ask him if he knows of
someone that's closer to you. He does work some larger barns in conjunction
with other farriers who might come from the other direction. I'm assuming
that you mainly want basic trims?
Linda
hello! i wanted to send an updated pic of windsor with his new pal
Hi Celeita! We had a great weekend for being out of doors and getting things done around the farm. At least until I decided it was too nice out to paint, stretch fence, etc. So, Toby and I got a good work out instead. <LOL> He is such a dream baby and will do anything to get your attention! We caught some of his antics on video and this picture shows what a good boy he is. Have a great week. Aunt Mary and the Chestnut Farms' critters.
Sharon, She just told me this morning that she will be picking up two of our horses (including River) and she plans on being back here by the 25th to pick up another horse so I know it will be some time in between there that she will be delivering River.
The continued support is certainly appreciated. The Tree
sounds really neat. Certainly after adopting River and giving him a great
home, anything you do will be above and beyond the call of duty, for sure but
we'll put it all to good use. You can probably send the tree with Suzanne
since she is coming right back here to get Dundee to take him to his new home.
I always expect every horse with good care to live to over
30 with todays feed, shelter and vet care, I've actually met a woman who was
doing 100 mile races with her 30 year old appy so its a lot like us, a healthy
diet, plenty of clean fresh water, vet, dental and farrier care and exercise
will keep him young. That doesn't mean you both have to do cross country races
but riding at even a walk or even hand walking (which is also great exercise
for us) is really good for them. On the harness race track they hand walk each
horse 45 minutes after a work out and they are really the experts on keeping
horses sound so its a good habit to get into.
The biggest change for him with be the heat so just make
sure you see him drinking plenty of water (remember some will only drink out
of buckets in stalls, they will never drink out of creeks/ponds or even
troughs outside, but usually its a horse that has spent much of his life or
early life in a stall like race horses) , check for dehydration, over
heating and just watch how he's doing with the bugs and flies. Some horses are
really sensitive and some adjust easily. River is pretty hardy but I still
think you have to watch them closely that first year. I feel it takes a horse
a complete year to be 100% at their new home, moving them is really much
harder on them than people realize. Some horses morn for their past humans for
months, then you add new schedules, new feed, new hay, new water, new herd,
new facilities, new people, new predominant weather and temperatures,
different ground cover/terrain and winds, new sounds and smells, new tack,
different riders that all ride differently and its really a huge change for
them.
I would think that a size 78 would probably fit him,
depending on who makes the rug. I know you know this but make sure its a water
proof rug if he is going to wear it outside, otherwise its like wearing wet
clothes, a blanket gets wet and soaks them to the bone... its actually worse
than not having anything on at all. The standard temperature to put a rug on
and take it off is 40 degrees but some people wait for freezing but down there
40 will feel very cold after he gets adjusted. Taking off at 40 is as critical
as putting on as they will seriously over heat with rugs in higher
temperatures. We use nothing but water proof rugs here because we don't have
the time to take the blanket off to go out and then groom and put the blanket
back on.... doing that for 25 to 30 horses is a huge task every day so I
suspect it would be tough for people that work for a living too. You need to
groom before putting on a blanket because having dirt underneath is like
having sand in a bathing suit bottom. ugggg, really uncomfortable. haha.... I
hope you don't mind my covering all this, to me its better to talk about
everything than not.... call me a worrisome grandma.
I'm really hoping that if congress passes the slaughter bill
that they will put some money into helping horses. They send 16 million to BLM
for the mustangs each year, if they sent that money to rescues we could save a
lot more horses than go to slaughter. It costs most programs like ours about
$1000. per horse so that's 160,000 horses each year if we got the money BLM
got. I think about 120,000 American horses go to slaughter (counting the
american horses that go to Canadian slaughters) so we could more than address
all those horses. Honestly I feel that the government needs to apply funds to
small animal adoption as well, that is a huge problem too. Of course, if we
had more controls on breeding like they do in Europe then many of these
problems would be non existent. I know people like to breed, I have two of my
babies here and two in SWAP homes but we have TB farms who are putting out 150
foals each year and that is only one farm. It's is just too much.
All we need before River leaves is his boarding fees from
the contract date to the date he departs. If you want to use a debit or credit
card, all you need to do is call Southern States at 304-873-2261 and give Ron
your credit card information and tell him how much you owe and apply it to our
feed fund. I can check your contract date if you need me to do that. I always
have to go back and check. Just let me know and I'll check for you. There will
be a CD coming with him that will have all his historical information, his
vet/farrer and dental records, a letter on settling in a horse, an annual
update form that needs to be done every June. Its pretty easy. If you have any
questions at all, if you need any help at all, please don't hesitate to
contact us. Also, remember we have that big library of training books and
videos that you can check out and keep a whole month for just the cost of
shipping it to you and shipping it back. You'll do fine but we are here to
help if you need help. Celeita
Yes, Jennifer, we did. Thank you so much for taking the time to do this and for giving this boy such a wonderful home. We love you for it and I'm certain Kismet does too!! Celeita
Hey Cherice, that wasn't my Dobie Cleo that died, it was one of the adopters who was the barn manager at a facility where many of our horses were located (around cleveland). She was heart broken. I still have my wonderful girl, she entertains me every day.
Downloading the pictures now, is there any way you can download the annual
follow up form off the website and just fill that out and send it in. We just
need that every June. Thank you so much. So tell us how are things going with
him? He is a sweetie isn't he?
No, sadly we never found Brass, can you believe it. I can only hope he is
in a good home, as we are all convinced he was taken from our pasture. So sad,
there isn't a day that goes by that I don't think of him and wonder.
Love the pictures. Boy, you're really growing up. You look so much taller, you were just a little squirt when you adopted, you look like a grown up now. You and Gentleman Bill look like a seasoned team. Much Love, Celeita
Thank you Meredith, what cute pictures. She looks great and it sounds like you've had a wonderful summer. Do we have your parents address and information just so we know where she is? Just want to make sure. Hope you have a wonderful school year. Thank you for giving April such a great home. All the best, Celeita
Hi Celeita!
Thanks Merryl, we'll let you know how it goes. I'm sure we'll find her a great home. Don't worry. Many Regards, Celeita
Thank you Tammy. I have heard a lot about you and Dean. Mary thinks a lot of you two and didn't you come over and groom my babies. Really appreciate that, my guys don't get enough attention since I am so busy with the program. Its not very fair to them. Really enjoyed the pictures of Dean and Two Wap, actually we put them on our Happy Endings 2006 page so everyone could see them. They make quite the team. Well, thank you for everything, we appreciate your encouragement. Many Regards, Celeita
Hey, what great news. You all look super. Congrats. I'm sure he will get better once he realizes no one is going to hurt him and that that will be his job. It will get better, don't worry. Not the same little boy that came to us from that prosecuting attorney who took him and the others because they were being starved. What a change, isn't it wonderful to be part of changing a horses life completely and forever? Celeita
No worries Marisa, with two vets, we know she is in good hands but thank you for getting everything in, it makes our job much easier. Celeita
Sounds like a wonderful experience. Wow!! We'd love for you to adopt again when you return. The program has grown, we've learned so much and it seems to be getting even more popular. We do like our work and we know we could have a farm this size in every state and still need more room... the need is huge. Well, I envy you, what a life. I have always wanted to go to China but have never been, maybe some day. Thank you again, have a wonderful time and come see us when you return to the US. All the best, Celeita
Its always hard letting go. I'm sure we'll find him a great home that is safe. Don't worry. Celeita
I am trying not to but you know how it is. But I can tell you that if it
weren't for people like you and for all that you do for our equine friends
there would be a lot more horses lost in this world. You need and deserve a
medal for all you do.
Angela E. Britton
Thank you Marisa, what a cute picture. Can't wait to see the others. We knew she was fine, but still love hearing from you. Melody looks like she enjoys the goat, and she's fat. Hope all is well otherwise. The place still looks like a dream farm. I'm sure its heaven on earth. Thank you again. We'll look for the forms, thank you so much. Celeita
Okay Renee, thank you so much for writing. We would love to have pictures of everyone. Congrats to Indy and to you. I'm sure you're very busy, we just want to know everything is fine. Thank you so much, we'll look for the pictures, thank you.
Bravo. I wish we had more people just like you. These poor innocent animals deserve that security to know they will be loved forever and not dumped once they are old or not useful anymore. Thank you Karen. We look forward to having you as an adopter. Celeita
Good Rachael, I'm glad this has turned out well. I wish more people would learn this lesson. I have already put a note on the black list page under your name and as soon as you're done with your volunteer work I'll remove your name for good. Just let me know who you decide to work with and when you're starting. You're two horses were very lucky because we were there to start hunting for them but many animals are not, I just want you to see how badly that can be for a defenseless animals that totally depends on us to do the right thing. All the best. Celeita
Lyn, Don't worry about the money, we're just glad you are okay. I'm very sorry about the heart attack. I'm downloading the pictures, I'm sure he looks wonderful. Right now just take care of yourself. Mr. P needs you healthy. Thank you for thinking of us. It really does make our day to know these horses are safe, loved and well cared for. All the best, Celeita *
Thanks Betsy, sure we always love pictures. So happy you are enjoying Classy and that she is happy. All the best, Celeita
Thanks you two. We were just talking about you all, Sandhi and your visit and were just wondering how things were going. We understand about being busy. Just send it in when you get a chance, we would love to see you all with him. Hope all is well otherwise. My fiance lives in Middleburg so I think of you all often with us going back and forth. Celeita
Hey Celeita - hope you got our pictures and my other email
too.
Sweetie is doing pretty well. She has improved
dramatically, with less than perfect manners - lol.... She is less attached
to the other horses now and seems to enjoy the routines and her stall but is
still extremely fretful when someone comes or goes. Her manners are much
better, being much calmer, less pushy and more respectful - s sweet and
sociable as ever.
We feel confident that we can ride her through her "moments"
without much difficulty and Bekah loves her - its just her ground manners that
are still less than what I would want for a child to handle - but as I say,
she is coming along, and Bekah is developing into a much more assertive and
confident handler. I hope you enjoy the pics I sent.
Blessings,
Angela
thank you Angela, that is great news. If nothing else if kids work through the problems with these horses, they become better horse people. Much better off than the people that just give up and every horse has issues and short comings, just like we do as people. We can't expect them to be perfect because we are not perfect. I will look for the pictures, I may have missed them but I don't want to miss anything from you all. All the best, Celeita
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Update on Meg and SnickersHi again from Ohio,
Again huge apologies for the delay but we have had some
traumatic times since last we spoke... The weekend i was to take the pictures
for you i managed to cut a tree down on myself sustaining a concussion 3
broken ribs and some neck and back damage to boot. And if that wasn't enough
about the time i was almost up and functioning Cheryl's mother had to have an
emergency triple by-pass at 83 years of age so naturally she flew to Fl. to be
with her. Then to top it off, as if this wasn't enough, the day after she
left i was at the barn feeding and on my way back one of our dogs, Rock,
decided our goats looked too calm and decided to chase them. In their flight
they ran to me for safety and knocked me flying re-breaking 2 ribs. I have
attached a few older pictures...........note the butterfly patches on Meg's
blanket...we had a heck of a time keeping one on her...that one was the second
and we had just finished repairing it and had to document it. As for Snickers
aka Pa Paw... he is the most popular horse in the neighborhood.... the kids
playing with him belong to some of our friends...who have since decided that
their Dad has to buy them a stable so they can have PaPaw and plan on buying
him a camel for a companion animal so he won't be lonely. We are having some
digital cam problems for some reason the pictures want to load at almost
poster size..so we are going to go buy a disposable take some current pics for
you and get them transferred to disc so we can get them to you as soon as
possible. As far as any health issues they are doing great...... Meg is fat
and happy......PaPaw is as active as the 5 yr old he is sharing pasture with.
All shots are current , feet are due to be trimmed in about 2 weeks. We
thought for a short time that we had a pregnant Meg but she just started her
cycle again so i guess it was a false alarm. Will get the forms out to you
soon and the pics e-mailed to you as soon as we get them taken.
Have a great day......Tom and
Cheryl Montgomery
Erena got the message the other day that you had
called and this is the first chance we have had to reply. Sorry for the
delay. We have the coggins back for Trooper and Shoe both were negative. All
horses have been trimmed every 6-8 weeks, teeth checked and floated as
needed in July all shots and wormings are up to date. We have been trying to
take some pictures to send to you but our dang camera is on the blink. Will
send them as soon as we can. Any other questions or concerns do not hesitate
to call( preferably before11:00 AM your time) or send an e-mail to either me
or Erena.
Thanks,
Ernie
Seems like he is looking at all the green grass he is missing!! He
IT IS COMFORTING TO HEAR, "...NOT THAT BIG OF A THING REALLY" AS I HAVE BEEN SUPER DUPER STRESSED OVER THE POSSIBLE IMPLICATIONS OF THIS LAMINITIS THING AND HAVE RUN MYSELF RAGGED TRYING TO DUE THE RIGHT THING AND KEEP HIM OCCUPIED WHILE CONFINED. I APPRECIATE YOUR ADVICE.
CALLED MY VET AFTER I READ THIS YESTERDAY. THEY HAD CHECKED SYSTEMS STUFF LIKE KIDNEY AND LIVER - BOTH NORMAL. ALSO DID A CORTISOL TEST - NORMAL. AND RECOMMEND A POSSIBLE ACTH TEST IF HE HAS SYMPTOMS OF CUSHINGS IN THE FUTURE LIKE LONG SHAGGY COAT ETC. THEY DO NOT THINK MUCH OF THYRO-L.
GREAT ADVICE!! I AM REALLY HAVING A TIME WITH MY FARRIER BECAUSE HE IS DEFINITELY HOUNDING ME ABOUT SHOES AND PACKING. I FEEL IN MY GUT HE IS SAYING IT DUE TO MONEY. HE IS ANTI-BAREFOOT AND I AM SURE NOT AS WHIM HAS (GENERALLY) SUPER STRONG HEALTHY TOUGH HOOVES. I THINK ONE REASON I AM DEALING WITH THE WHITE LINE IS BECAUSE THE FARRIER UNDER-TRIMMED WHIM'S FEET SAYING TO ME, "IF I TAKE TOO MUCH OFF AND YOU RIDE, YOU WILL WEAR ALL HIS HOOF AWAY!" HE NEVER HAD ANY SIGN THAT WOULD HAPPEN!! I FEEL LIKE I COULD GO CRAZY WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT PIECES OF ADVICE I FIND OUT THERE. AND PEOPLE WONDER WHY I AM SO SKEPTICAL ABOUT THINGS!!!
DO YOU HAVE A FAVORITE HOOF SUPPLEMENT? I DO WANT TO GIVE HIM ONE RIGHT NOW FOR GROWTH. HIS QUALITY IS GOOD BUT HAS HAD THIS RE-SECTIONING AND I'D LIKE HIM TO HAVE SOME HELP GROWING IT OUT. ANYWAY I LIKE THE BAREFOOT IDEA VERY MUCH, PLUS , WHIM HAS EASY BOOTS FOR ROUGH TERRAIN.
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